[sweetliberty]

"It is just standard human nature and has always gone on."

Yes, it is called man's sinful nature which is at enmity with God. Does that mean because it comes naturally that we should not try to rise above it or that we should turn a blind eye to it? If we did that then that would mean that the liberals are right and that Clinton and, indeed, their lying, corrupt selves are doing only what is common to man and therefore should be excused. Of course, that is exactly what they believe in most cases I think. Whatever happened to the nobility of man?

[ValerieUSA]

A church without enemies in this world is a worthless church

[Servant of the Nine]

"It is just standard human nature and has always gone on."

Yes, it is called man's sinful nature which is at enmity with God. Does that mean because it comes naturally that we should not try to rise above it or that we should turn a blind eye to it?

I acknowledge that you call it that.
I never said we should ignore it or shouldn't try to rise above it. I said it is not a new phenomenon or a sign our culture is degenerating. It is and always has been the natural state of mankind.

So9