UFOs, ancient aircraft, NASA coverup, mumbo-jumbo etc etc (Hmmmmm + tinfoil alert)

[demlosers]

From Article:
The base in Australia turned out to be occupied by the USA when an investigation was carried out, and they were working on some type of particle weapon that used an ionized beam to direct immense voltage at a target. What could all this be (by the way some of that footage was intercepted by ground observers, and since then NASA has been scrambling all its signals.

A carry over from our posts from a few days ago:
Another plausible explanation why the UFO evaded the particle beam shot, it may have detected the active targeting like a laser range finder, or it's sensors may have picked up the distinct charge up of the particle weapon and the UFO decided to leave before the weapon was fired. I count approximately 2.5 seconds between the 90 degree change in course of the UFO and the particle beam shot.

Also I don't believe the UFO's speed was as fast as the particle beam shot. In other words, it could not have outrun the particle beam shot, unless it is far enough away so that the shot is at its maximum range [whatever that is] and the UFO detects the shot in advance. The UFO in the video has to take an evasive maneuver to avoid being hit.

We may not have the technology right now to enforce Earth laws upon the UFOs, but I think that will all change within 100 years. That doesn't mean we will be able to defeat a superior evading force, just enough to make the free booting UFOs have to respect human laws or face possible consequence. Probably the reason why the goverment keeps them secret until then.

[swarthyguy]

I think those Egyptian (were they black) were debunked as fotoshop manipulations a couple of years ago, at least.

[swarthyguy]

wwww.enterprisemission.com

[spetznaz]

The Niphilim. I find them interesting.

[swarthyguy]

Don't forget Lt. Col. Philip Corso and his book.

[swarthyguy]

Zecharia Sitchin's books and Graham Hancock's and Michael Cremo. www.mcremo.com, www.sitchin.com, www.grahamhancock.com

For mix of tinfoil and archaelogical/geology/astronomy/science and wackiness, surf
www.dailygrail.com

Pardon me but now my discombobulator Super Space Ray Gun needs to calibrated towards Mecca.

That wacky wahhabi wabbit is about to get iwwadiated.

[palo verde]

hi eastforker
your post is interesting
I have not seen ET ships first hand, but I have seen ''traveling stars''
before I was on internet I used to lounge on couch in frontyard and watch the stars
to my amazement a star I had been lookin' at suddenly moved at right angles
I saw this happen many times
I have friends who have seen ET ships up close
we are not alone in the Universe
Love, Palo

[dennisw]

Don't forget Lt. Col. Philip Corso and his book.
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Yup.

http://ebe.allwebco.com/Sections/AncientVisitors/Archive/Indian_Tech.shtml

According to ancient Indian texts, the people had flying machines which were called "Vimanas." The ancient Indian epic describes a Vimana as a double-deck, circular aircraft with portholes and a dome, much as we would imagine a flying saucer.

It flew with the "speed of the wind" and gave forth a "melodious sound." There were at least four different types of Vimanas; some saucer shaped, others like long cylinders ("cigar shaped airships"). The ancient Indian texts on Vimanas are so numerous, it would take volumes to relate what they had to say. The ancient Indians, who manufactured these ships themselves, wrote entire flight manuals on the control of the various types of Vimanas, many of which are still in existence, and some have even been translated into English.

The Samara Sutradhara is a scientific treatise dealing with every possible angle of air travel in a Vimana. There are 230 stanzas dealing with the construction, take-off, cruising for thousand of miles, normal and forced landings, and even possible collisions with birds. In 1875, the Vaimanika Sastra, a fourth century B.C. text written by Bharadvajy the Wise, using even older texts as his source, was rediscovered in a temple in India. It dealt with the operation of Vimanas and included information on the steering, precautions for long flights, protection of the airships from storms and lightening and how to switch the drive to "solar energy" from a free energy source which sounds like "anti-gravity."

The Vaimanika Sastra (or Vymaanika-Shaastra) has eight chapters with diagrams, describing three types of aircraft, including apparatuses that could neither catch on fire nor break. It also mentions 31 essential parts of these vehicles and 16 materials from which they are constructed, which absorb light and heat; for which reason they were considered suitable for the construction of Vimanas. This document has been translated into English and is available by writing the publisher: VYMAANIDASHAASTRA AERONAUTICS by Maharishi Bharadwaaja, translated into English and edited, printed and published by Mr. G. R. Josyer, Mysore, India, 1979 (sorry, no street address). Mr. Josyer is the director of the International Academy of Sanskrit Investigation located in Mysore.

[palo verde]

hi spetznaz
thank you for pinging me
I believe in ETs and UFOs
and I find this stuff fascinating
Love, Palo

[dubyagee]

The Niphilim. I find them interesting.

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown." (Gen 6:4)

Very interesting I'd say...What could have caused these men to be known as the "men of renown?" I think those that write stuff like this off to quickly are motivated by fear of being called kooks.

[dennisw]

Graham Hancock's ..... I have one of his books. "Fingerprints of the Gods". No one has to believe everything in these books. They are provocative.

[palo verde]

I don't agree with everything he says, I find his ideas interesting tho

[spetznaz]

I find it interesting. Have you ever seen a UFO? Interesting.

Hmmm, interesting question. Well, i personally have never seen an UFO that i could not explain 'logically' and when it comes to 'green men' and their kin i tend to not have a concise concrete answer since i cannot say yes since i have never seen one, YET i cannot say no since our galaxy alone has billions of star systems with the potential of some having life (ranging from protoplasm to who knows what). I cannot answer that question with a definite answer ...but to say i am open to the idea.

Actually a better way to answer this is to post the following reply i sent to a certain Freeper using Freepmail after he sent me a private reply (the reason he did that is because he correctly concluded that there are some Freepers who would jeer at him for seeing aliens. Sadly he was totally correct since there are some Freepers who seem to enjoy discrediting fellow Freepers).

Anyway here is the reply i sent to him (obviously i have removed his name to ensure his privacy):

Clever not replying using a 'regular' post! Chances are you would have been seriously chastised and jeered at for having opinions and experiences that are not 'orthodox and mundane.' Hence it was probably prudent for you to reply using FreepMail. There is no need to subject yourself to needless and ceaseless diatribe from people who are trying to make you seem like some crackpot!

With that said i personally believe in the existence of UFOs! As to what those UFOs are i really do not know. Most of them i can easily explain away in what most people refer to as a 'logical' manner, however there are several that are honestly non-explainable!

And also in Africa there is this tribe (i believe it is called the dagone, or daggonee or dagoon etc ..something to that effect) that had detailed information on Sirius-B, which is a dwarf star hidden in the bigger sirius. They claim visitors from outer space gave them this information (and they were laughed at by the 'civilized' Europeans until there claims were verified when higher power astronomical telescopes came into place near the end of the 19th century).

Also in 1942 the Army reserve at LA started firing at 'discs' that hovered over LA. They thought it was some sort of Axis attack, but the funny thing was that these orbs were hovering and even though they fired 1403 anti-aircraft rounds (causing friendly fire incidents as some of the ordnance landed on the ground) they did not manage to bring even one of them down! The UFOs hovered for a good time period, and were witnessed by over a million people, and then went away without doing any direct harm (4 people died of heart attacks, plus the damage caused by AA ordnance fallign down without exploding in the air above).It was in all the papers the next day ...and today the Army reports still say it happened and have the documentation to back it up (apart from the photos in the papers of the carnage that followed when the ordnance landed on houses) ..BUT the navy said it never happened! Figure that out!

Anyways there is a lot out there that is not given to the public. What it is i do not know. However it is out there.

[palo verde]

hi dennis
I saw Lt. Col. Philip Corso interviewed
(I haven't read his book yet)
I believe every word Lt. Col. Philip Corso said
some of his interpretations of what he saw, I may see differently
but I found him clear, logical, honest, real
(also a nice guy :)
Love, Palo

[palo verde]

hi spetz
acording to Lt. Col. Philip Corso we got computers, night vision glasses, and laser (for laser surgery) from the ETs
Love, Palo

dennis, did I get this right?
I watched the interview with him in '97
do you remember the objects retrieved from crash of ET ship in Rozwell, NM in '47
which the General handed Col. Corso to find out what they were?

(Col. Corso said they were lying in a jumble in the General's desk in the Pentagon, when the General handed them to him, and said ''find out what these are'')

[cerberus]

Very interesting I'd say...What could have caused these men to be known as the "men of renown?" I think those that write stuff like this off to quickly are motivated by fear of being called kooks.

For what it's worth, I agree with you.

I have read most of Sitchin's books and, while I'm skeptical, they raise many fascinating questions.

[dubyagee]

I have read most of Sitchin's books and, while I'm skeptical, they raise many fascinating questions

Who is Sitchin? Do his books deal with this aspect of the bible? I would love to read them if they do.

[dennisw]

acording to Lt. Col. Philip Corso we got computers, night vision glasses, and laser (for laser surgery) from the ETs
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He said we got transistors and semiconductors among other things. I read >
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/067101756X/qid=1028395947/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-8350917-6917558

And heard him on the Art Bell show a few months before he passed away.

[lavaroise]

Why is it NASA cover up? Why not Russians space agencies?

[palo verde]

hi dennis
thank you for the link
I found this on amazon
(in review of his book)

Backed by documents newly declassified through the Freedom of Information Act, Colonel Philip J. Corso (Ret.), a member of President Eisenhower's National Security Council and former head of the Foreign Technology Desk at the U.S. Army's Research & Development department, has come forward to reveal his personal stewardship of alien artifacts from the Roswell crash. He tells us how he spearheaded the Army's reverse-engineering project that led to today's:

Integrated circuit chips
Fiber optics
Lasers
Super-tenacity fibers

and ''seeded'' the Roswell alien technology to giants of American industry