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Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

Posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: mommya
Looked there earlier, no dog hair mentioned. Thanks
201 posted on 07/31/2002 11:43:07 AM PDT by clearvision
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To: mommya
But neither was she in the SUV. So the questions remains if David did, how? Where was she removed from? When was she murdered? How did she get to Dehesa? Why are the "damning" fibers and hairs in some places but not others that are suppose to be on the path from the bedroom to Dehesa?
202 posted on 07/31/2002 11:45:23 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: FresnoDA; Mrs.Liberty; demsux; MizSterious; Jaded; skipjackcity; RnMomof7; spectre; BARLF; ...
countess,HoneyBoo,basscleff,Jrabbit

THIS PING IS FOR YOU !

I have been working on a new ITEM for our threads.

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by rolling_stone

"Well, EXCUSE me, Mr. Feldman, what's a couple of math errors? We have a dead child, a beautiful little girl, brutally murdered by a monster, deposited like TRASH, on the side of the road, and YOU'RE concerned with MATH?!" "Give me a BREAK"!
by spectre (sw)

I find it interesting that those without a political agenda ALL FIND HIM NOT GUILTY
by mouser

Best case scenario is a hung jury.
And you hear thunder before you see the lightning ?
up is down --war is peace. What color is the sky on your planet ?
by dread78645

"A (Fly) Lie for the prosecution."
by dread78645

Bottom line is, Dusek should not have reopened his taken this case. If they really wanted a conviction, I don't know why Dusek was selected. Maybe he IS the sacrificial lamb after all.
by Southflanknorthpawsis

sshhh i'm hunting wabbits
by countess

Looks to me like some people have had to resort to grasping at fibers.
by bolthead

William Wallace suffered less than Goff did today.
by John Jamieson

That goofy mascot of the SD Padres has long orange fibers all over it...maybe Mudd did it.
by demsux

(AND MY FAVORITE, by JUDGE MUDD)

THE COURT: WE DEFINITELY HAVE ADMITTED UNTRUTHFULNESSES .
by Karson

203 posted on 07/31/2002 11:47:00 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: mommya
mommya, actually I'm only here. I am having the same problem as others have mentioned. Glad to know at least it isn't just me. I'm computer challenged so I figured everyone else had left me in the chat dust!
204 posted on 07/31/2002 11:47:02 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: clearvision
I searched there before I posted and did not find any suv testimony (I searched on toyota and SUV and did not read it again). Are you saying there is SUV testimony there, or that was the dog hair testimony in general?

Both

dog hair & house first morning session;
dog hair & SUV in the second morning session.

205 posted on 07/31/2002 11:48:46 AM PDT by dread78645
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To: Jrabbit
Fine work, as usual. This is the start of something good.
206 posted on 07/31/2002 11:51:30 AM PDT by HoneyBoo
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To: Jaded
I agree with all that - they havn't shown much. When you think about how illogical it all is sometimes - frame up does pop out as a plausible theory - I know I know - frame up is conspiricy and it would take a lot of people to be in the know and stay shut up about it and those involved are risking a lot and why would they do it - yada yada yada. This case just does not make sense in so many ways - I hope some day we will have our own "closure" (I hate that word) with the different mysteries involved with it.
207 posted on 07/31/2002 11:54:59 AM PDT by mommya
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To: mommya
What do you mean?

Gotta have both to ask for the death penalty.

Lawyer link

208 posted on 07/31/2002 11:55:10 AM PDT by dread78645
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To: dread78645
So as it stand right now in this case - the jury could convict for one or the other - or both?
209 posted on 07/31/2002 11:59:05 AM PDT by mommya
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To: dread78645
Sorry, but I just went back thru the mornings sessions on the 24th and all I find is comments on the hair found in the RV(motorhome) not the SUV (toyota). Maybe I'll look again later.
210 posted on 07/31/2002 11:59:18 AM PDT by clearvision
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To: Jaded; cyncooper
I'm only here for a second...was tuned into court tv and heard something I haven't seen anyone catch.

They played a recording of DW saying his trip that weekend was spur of the moment.

What they didn't say on ctv now, was that DW's son knew about the trip the weekend before. DW lied to police.. It was not a spur of the moment.

211 posted on 07/31/2002 12:01:38 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: clearvision
I find is comments on the hair found in the RV(motorhome) not the SUV (toyota). Maybe I'll look again later.

Sorry -my mistake. Eyes read S-U-V, brain went R-V.

:/

212 posted on 07/31/2002 12:02:06 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: mommya; Jaded
frame up is conspiricy and it would take a lot of people to be in the know and stay shut up about it and those involved are risking a lot and why would they do it - yada yada yada.

Or, as known in any large ORGANIZATION, That's the BOSSES ORDERS!

A lot of people in the know? Not really. Just people going along with (DO AS YOU ARE TOLD). Also people going along because they are sure it is the RIGHT thing to do.

RISKING A LOT? No, not really. Since none of them had to be told to do anything specific, they can't be found guilty of anything. So they made a mistake, a miscalculation, a misjudgement. OOOOPS !

WHY WOULD THEY DO IT? Same reason the HANG DW crowd ignores any evidence, testimony that shows DW might not be guilty.

THEY ALL BELIEVE ! TOTALLY COMMITTED BELIEF!

They are just finding evidence to match their belief.

213 posted on 07/31/2002 12:02:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
What about this?

Do you think Dusek wears a rug? He should wear one on his face alright. Posted by The Deejay

214 posted on 07/31/2002 12:04:42 PM PDT by HoneyBoo
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim, I don't know why, after countless times others have explained this to you, you keep going back to it.

Seems like you are desperate.

It was not a spur of the moment.

DW's trip was planned ahead of time. He ended up gettting bored with the PLANNED part of his trip, and picked up camp, and headed off to other places to see if he could find his friends, or other interest. THAT PART of it was the SPUR OF THE MOMENT he was talking about.

215 posted on 07/31/2002 12:05:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Since that is so dern biased, I better not comment...
216 posted on 07/31/2002 12:05:52 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Steve0113
That in and of itself should be showing the jury how desperate he is to make connections regarding his "evidence".

I expect him, at the closing arguments, to just throw his hands in the air and say, "Ok...I have NO idea how to connect any of this. Y'all are on your own."
217 posted on 07/31/2002 12:06:48 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: mommya
So as it stand right now in this case - the jury could convict for one or the other - or both?

Well I suppose they could ...

But without the kidapping there is a higher standard of proof required for a murder conviction.
Probably why Dusek is against the idea. A very risky game these folks are playing.

218 posted on 07/31/2002 12:07:03 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Methinks Goff needs to use some Oxy-Clean on his hair and beard to "de-yellow" them.
219 posted on 07/31/2002 12:08:22 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: UCANSEE2
Um, WHEN have we disagreed with about it? I think you've gotten me confused with another freeper. I could be proven wrong, but the only disagreements about issues that I can remember have been resolved either through facts, transcipts or through testimony.
220 posted on 07/31/2002 12:08:42 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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