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Judge Mudd Says Sequestering Of Jury Possible: Van Dam case has jurors facing more Mad-Dawgging!!
Union Trib ^ | July 30, 3002 | Alex Roth

Posted on 07/30/2002 7:13:26 AM PDT by FresnoDA

Judge says sequestering of jury possible

By Alex Roth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

July 30, 2002

Judge William D. Mudd chastises the media and threatens to cut off video and still-photo coverage David Westerfield's murder trial Thursday, July 25, 2002, in San Diego. Mudd said the problem was due to a security breech when an unnamed person followed some jurors to their vehicles and wrote down license numbers. Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of seven-year old Danielle van Dam. (AP Photo/Dan Trevan,POOL)The judge in the David Westerfield trial rejected another defense request to sequester the jury but said he still considers it "a possible option."

Superior Court Judge William Mudd said he didn't think it was necessary at the moment but has asked the county to prepare "a back-up contingency plan" just in case.

Westerfield's lawyers have asked several times for jury sequestration, and they renewed their request yesterday. Lead defense lawyer Steven Feldman said he worried that the jury might be affected by the publicity in the Samantha Runnion kidnap-murder case in Orange County.

Feldman cited comments made by Samantha's mother about Alejandro Avila, the man charged with kidnapping and killing the 5-year-old girl. In an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live," Erin Runnion blamed her daughter's death on a jury that acquitted Avila of child molestation charges two years ago.

Feldman said he worried that jurors in the Westerfield case might hear about the interview and feel pressured to convict his client, who is charged with kidnapping and killing 7-year-old Danielle van Dam of Sabre Springs.

The judge said he would remind jurors about news coverage they should avoid. He also said he talked to them about sequestration last week after receiving reports that someone in the media followed some of the jurors to their cars and wrote down their license plates.

"They're a hearty group and they didn't appear to be intimidated by what occurred, and I continue to believe in their integrity," the judge said yesterday.

With the trial in recess for a day, lawyers spent yesterday discussing legal instructions to give to the jury before they begin deliberations. It seems likely that testimony will continue into next week.

Prosecutors are expected to finish their rebuttal evidence today, at which point the defense will put on evidence to rebut the prosecution's rebuttal. One possible defense witness probably won't be called until Monday, Feldman told the judge yesterday.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 180frank; danielle; kidnapping; molestation; threadjackals; vandam; westerfield
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To: shezza
Man, you needed this break too!!! Cable is back on..all is well.

Will be back after lunch break..

361 posted on 07/30/2002 12:01:33 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: shezza
Okay, I'm going to go socialize with my family for a bit! See yaz in a while.
362 posted on 07/30/2002 12:01:47 PM PDT by shezza
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To: bvw
She was missing some organs, flesh, and foot.
363 posted on 07/30/2002 12:02:32 PM PDT by shezza
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To: shezza
Not to mention blood and other bodily fluids that would account for live weight.
364 posted on 07/30/2002 12:02:55 PM PDT by shezza
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To: shezza
What is the normal weight of a 4'9" girl?
365 posted on 07/30/2002 12:04:05 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Great charlatans are not good liars, that they lie is all part of the joy the true believers follow them for.

That's quotable. It reminds me of a certain impeached x42.

366 posted on 07/30/2002 12:04:53 PM PDT by Steve0113
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To: bvw
What is the normal weight of a 4'9" girl?

See _minion's #358 link.

367 posted on 07/30/2002 12:05:41 PM PDT by shezza
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To: BARLF; Steve0113
Missed your post!! yeah come on over her steve.. See ya after lunch break.
368 posted on 07/30/2002 12:07:31 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
I'm still waiting for that testimonyThis was about the Van Dam boy having to be helped across the street.

I don't believe you will hear the testimony. The reason is that the WITNESS started giving that TESTIMONY,and the Prosecution OBJECTED and got it struck.

So, the NEIGHBOR (in all probability) did have to help the boy, who was unsupervised, but it isn't ON THE RECORD, because the prosecution didn't want it there. The defense tried but was struck down by MUDD.

I SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL. The Judge, the Prosecutor, Especially the SDPD and the DA have a LOT TO LOSE if DW gets NOT GUILTY. For them to admit that the other recent FEMALE CHILD RAPE/KILLINGS in the same DAMN AREA have anything to do with Danielle would make them look like they JUMPED THE GUN, ARRESTED THE WRONG MAN, and they won't admit that. You can bet you last dollar on it.

IF DW did it, Then FINE. But there is so much reason to believe he didn't. There reasonable explanations for the measly evidence the LE's managed to scrape up.

All of the important evidence that could have Proven DW absolutely DID/DID NOT do it were ignored. They were ignored because they would have proved HE DIDN'T and they ALREADY HAD MADE THE ARREST and TOLD EVERYONE THEY GOT THE KILLER. NOT ALLEDGED KILLER, but THE KILLER.

I Hope, if DW is not guilty of being involved in Danielle's death, that he gets off and SUES THE ASS OFF the SDPD and the DA, AND WINS !

That is how strongly I feel about this case, how strongly I feel that he is being railroaded, and how obvious it is to anyone that takes the time to review all the information ,all the evidence, all the testimony, and come to a conclusion.

Everyone has their own mind, their own point of view and comes to their own conclusion.

NEW info can change your point of view, just like the info about Daneille going to the park unescorted, even though Brenda says SHE WATCHED her.

The testimony about the orange fibers, and the various items worn by LE, searchers, helpers, dog trainer, etc. were interesting.

Two things I noticed were they still did not prove what the source of them was, or whether there was enough of a rarity to prove the ones on Danielle could positively link to the ones in DW's house or MH.

The second thing was that when the person that evaluated the fibers/garments was asked if the ones she had been given to be tested were the same as the ones the dogs were wearing in the pictures, she said "I DON'T KNOW".

369 posted on 07/30/2002 12:10:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: bvw
I think he means that you first use the centigrade scale and subtract 10 from each hour's temperature and add up all the hours until you get the 2,000? degree hours.

EG. If the temperature stayed at 20C all day you would get 24*(20-10)=240 degreehours per day, or about 8 days. At 15C you would need 16 days, etc.
370 posted on 07/30/2002 12:10:30 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Sorry Kim, there are no slam dunks here. You're picking out just whatever you want to hear.
371 posted on 07/30/2002 12:13:42 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
Sorry, I don't follow your explanation. Is "base 10" some term of art in his field that is at variance from the normal meaning of that techical term?
372 posted on 07/30/2002 12:14:03 PM PDT by bvw
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To: John Jamieson
Don't you think that Goff should come to the same conclusions as Haskell? They both used the data from Brown field - and the accumulated degree hour method.
373 posted on 07/30/2002 12:15:23 PM PDT by mommya
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To: shezza
More useful to know what Danielle weighed at her last checkup, but at that height she may have weighed 65-85 pounds, more to the light side based on her photos.
374 posted on 07/30/2002 12:15:33 PM PDT by bvw
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To: UCANSEE2
Also, only one dog vest was given for testing, and there were two dogs, each in his own orange vest. Perhaps they thought that if they tested one, the other would be moot.

And IIRC, the blue-gray SUV fibers weren't collected until June, after the trial began. How long had they been there, and who had been in there in the interim? Someone or something (like a police jacket) that was common to the Danielle recovery site? Detectives sat in the back of his SUV for hours. Detectives wearing jackets were at every single site where all these fibers were found. It's not inconceivable that an innocent searcher or forensics collector could have carried and shed these fibers.

It's the lack of a SOURCE that invalidates the fiber testimony, in my own personal evaluation of the evidence.

375 posted on 07/30/2002 12:16:57 PM PDT by shezza
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To: shezza
Goff managed to work the begining estimate all the way back to what Dusek wanted, just barely, the center of his estimate (usually considered the best estimate) is 2/7! Still too late.
376 posted on 07/30/2002 12:18:17 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: mommya
They both used the data from Brown field - and the accumulated degree hour method.

I couldn't listen through but it was my impression that Goff used more recent developed data on what it takes to get a big bug. He felt it was better than the old 1954 data.

377 posted on 07/30/2002 12:19:14 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Steve0113
Thanks, but I'm pretty sure its just a paraphrase of someone else's comment.
378 posted on 07/30/2002 12:19:43 PM PDT by bvw
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To: VRWC_minion
Those were the constant lab temperature at which the required number of degree hours were measured. The two lab tests produced close numbers.
379 posted on 07/30/2002 12:20:08 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: mommya
Don't you think that Goff should come to the same conclusions as Haskell?

Wasn't Goff brought in because he and Haskell have been on same cases before and provided counter testimony. I.E. They are known to DISAGREE with each other. I believe it was obvious that GOFF was being brought in specifically to disagree with whatever HASKELL said, no matter what it was. If Haskell says YES, GOFF says NO, kind of thing.

It is possible GOFF's analysis might be more accurate. Why Didn't DUSEK call him in from the beginning? Why did he only beg to do so after the people he USUALLY USES and RELIES ON, didn't give the answer that would benefit the prosecution's case?

DUSEK makes it obvious.

I now call GOFF because he will say everyone else if wrong. It is what he does. That is why I had to go get him.

380 posted on 07/30/2002 12:20:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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