Judge Mudd Says Sequestering Of Jury Possible: Van Dam case has jurors facing more Mad-Dawgging!!

Union Trib ^ | July 30, 3002 | Alex Roth

[shezza]

Unfortunately, this is usually the point where Judge Mudd has to admonish the jury to wake up.

[shezza]

Main job of forensic entomologist is to estimate Post Mortem Interval. Also able to determine whether or not body was moved, whether the body had wounds, toxicology, etc.

[shezza]

He has a smooooooth voice. Reminds me of Bob Ross. "Let's paint some happy little maggots. Tap-tap-tap-tap-tap."

[Freedom2specul8]

http://members.cox.net/jeneal/PrelimTranscripts/020311p1.txt

9 Q. Now, I think you used the word mummification 10 earlier? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. Can you please tell us at what stage of the 13 decomposition process would you expect mummification to 14 occur? 15 A. Well, mummification occurs only in sort of a dry, 16 warm atmosphere. Commonly in the desert in the summertime. 17 This body was mummified. All the skin that was still 18 present was mummified, a brown leathery appearance.

[UCANSEE2]

Obviously if you had read it you would note that items have been censored in order to remain PC to the thread moderator. Interesting. What terms? Derogatory? Perhaps a wise decision...

I removed them. My choice, my list. I didn't do it because I was worried about the Admin Moderator. I did it because they were encouraged personal attacks, IMO.

[shezza]

In early stages of decomposition looks for life cycle of index. Fly is one of the first things to show up on the body. Natural openings, eyes, nose, ears, mouth, anus, genitals. Then wound openings. Looks for a suitable place to lay eggs.

[VRWC_minion]

Flys just got have a home and they are moving from one dead animal to another for there young-ins.

Irony ?

[shezza]

Mouths of flies/maggots not designed to penetrate hard tissue. Look for moist, soft tissue.

[VRWC_minion]

Tend to go in moist areas ? Me thinks Desuk is eating up time to delay the main points to be after lunch.

[Spunky]

"I was just reminded that when we camped with a child this age he couldn't get in easily without steps being pulled out."

Don't under estimate what a child can do when they set their minds to it. As I said before when my daughter was 2-3 years old she climbed onto the roof of the house because her Dad was up there working on putting up an antenna. He heard, "Me help Daddy." He looked and there she was.

Possible opportunity when Danielle may have gotten into the RV

Testimony Susan L. 7/10/02 Morning 2 pg 7917-18

16 WOULD ONLY BE THERE BEFORE YOU WENT CAMPING, WAS THERE ALSO AT
17 LEAST ONE TIME WHEN THE MOTOR HOME WAS THERE AT THE PARK AND YOU
18 WERE DOING SOME ADDITIONS TO IT?
19 A. YES, YES.
20 MR. DUSEK: OBJECTION, VAGUE AS TO TIME.
21 THE COURT: MAKE IT TIME SPECIFIC, COUNSEL.
22
23 BY MR. BOYCE:
24 Q. WITHIN THE PAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF?
25 A. YES.
26 Q. THIS WAS THE NEW MOTOR HOME; IS THAT CORRECT?
27 A. CORRECT.
28 Q. THIS WAS AT THE PARK CLOSE TO MR. WESTERFIELD'S

Testimony of Brenda VanDam at PH 3/14/02 pg 549

3 Q IS THERE ANY PARK DOWN AT ONE END OF YOUR 4 STREET?5 A YES. 6 Q TO GET TO THE PARK, YOU HAVE TO CROSS A 7 STREET?8 A YES. 9 Q AND THEN DO YOU HAVE TO GO BY 10 MR. WESTERFIELD'S HOUSE?11 A YES. 12 Q WAS SHE PERMITTED TO GO DOWN THERE?13 A SHE WAS DOWN THERE MAYBE TWO TIMES WITHOUT 14 ME, BUT I WAS IN THE DRIVEWAY WATCHING. 15 Q WOULD SHE ASK PERMISSION TO GO DOWN THERE?16 A YES.17 Q HOW FAR AWAY IS THIS PARK, WOULD YOU SAY? 18 WITHIN EYESIGHT OR --19 A WITHIN EYESIGHT. 20 Q I FORGOT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING EARLIER. 21 I'VE HAD MARKED AS PEOPLE'S EXHIBIT 6 THIS 22 THREE-PAGE DOCUMENT, LOOKS LIKE A GIRL SCOUT COOKIE 23 FORM. COUNSEL HAS A COPY AND I'VE SHOWN HIM. 24 LET ME ASK YOU TO LOOK AT EXHIBIT 6,

[Freedom2specul8]

~and since~ the skin was brown and leathery...their mouths aren't strong enough.

Did you hear him say that bugologists are not qualifed to announce time of death? What was he saying? I missed all of that.

[shezza]

Egg will hatch into maggots. Exoskeleton limits their size, but will eat until reach maximum size. Shed skin, move into second enstage, repeat, move into third enstar. When reaches maximum size, stops feeding and moves away from body. Puparea is inactive stage, helpless. Predators of puparea include beetles.

[shezza]

He said they judged exposure to the elements/insects, not time of death.

[VRWC_minion]

Talking about predators including ants.

[shezza]

If carcass had tried out there would be no place for the blowflies to colonize.

[juzcuz]

Hi minion--

I'm trying to find it..

[shezza]

Ferral dogs, cats, rats, other animals could come in and feed on flesh. As tissue is removed, will probably increase the rate at which body will dry out.

[Freedom2specul8]

In yer sentence..is tried suppose to be dried?

[the Deejay]

"SHE WAS DOWN THERE MAYBE TWO TIMES WITHOUT 14 ME, BUT I WAS IN THE DRIVEWAY WATCHING"


BIG LIE.

[shezza]

Dusek asked Goff to make calculations based upon information provided by prosecution, including weather data. Used info on bugs provided by Faulkner and Haskell.