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Sorry I don't have my ping list as I am on my laptop, and my desktop computer is down right now while I move it to another room in the house

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Ok... After reading the July 29th thread. It got me thinking, so here is another theory.
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Ricci is a drug user...

Ricci's wife is also a drug user...

Ricci has many ex-con friends, even some that are child molesters.

Ricci also has worked in many of upper class home in the Federal Heights neighborhood. So Ricci knows many upper class people from working inside these homes.

Let's say Ricci befriends one of these people that resides in one of thes nice homes, You don't have to be making a full honest living to live in one.

Let's say Ricci is hired to work on one these homes and the owner of the home happens to be a drug dealer on a large scale behind the scenes. Ricci may have became a trusted friend to this drug dealer, but maybe Ricci has sticky fingers after making a few drug runs for this upscale drug dealer. This upscale and behind the scenes drug dealer is well known in the community as he has some sort of business to be front for his drug dealing.

Maybe this upscale drug dealer knows the Smart family without the family knowing what his real business is. He is attracted to Elizabeth or knows of her and has seen her innocent beauty. But this guy has never acted on it. Maybe he finds out about Liz through Ricci. Maybe Ricci talked about her harp playing and beauty... when he went to pick up a fix or to pick up the drugs for a drug run. Ricci and this man would be fairly good friends through drug dealings.

We know that Ricci has sticky fingers, so maybe he screwed the drug deal over some how. Maybe Ricci did not pay off his debt to the drug dealer or he took drugs from the dealer or skimmed money or drugs off a drug deal.

The drug dealer tells Ricci to pay up or he is dead or maybe even threatens Ricci's family to Ricci's face. Being a con man maybe Ricci worked out a deal with the drug dealer to save his own butt or his family. Maybe the drug dealer tells Ricci to bring him Elizabeth as payment for Ricci's drug debt... Maybe he tells Ricci he just wants Elizabeth for few days and will let her go after he does what he wants with her. The drug dealer knows Ricci worked in the house, so Ricci could get in and out the house with Elizabeth.

Ricci knows that he can enter the house, but he plays it safe and brings in one of his ex-con child molester buddies to go into the house for him or maybe the drug dealer suggests that Ricci brings in someone else (maybe one of Ricci friends also knows this drug dealer and both Ricci & his friend screwed this drug dealer over)

Ricci has certain amount time to make good on his debt... The deadline just happens to come into affect after Ricci has dropped his Jeep off for repair. Ricci has to get the Jeep out, so he has his kidnapping partner's wife call in for the Jeep. The partners wife knows nothing about the kidnapping and Ricci just has her call the shop, to get Moul to release it thinking that Moul would be softer and more willing to release it to woman posing as Ricci's wife and saying their was a family emergency on her side of the family.

They get the Jeep and Ricci & his partner use it... Ricci sits down with his partner and tells him or draws him a layout of the house. Maybe Ricci knows that 2 girls shared the one bedroom in the front of the house... and maybe the bedroom in the basement was being built for Liz but was not completed yet.

The morning of June 5th comes, Ricci's partner has Jeep and picks Ricci up after the wife goes to sleep finally. They go to the in the area behind the house (why they needed a 4x4), Ricci's partner gets out and dresses like someone who would like in the area, Ricci's partner walks to the house and breaks in a take Liz. The kidnapper has her put on shoes as they have to walk back to the Jeep over rocks and rough terrian where Ricci is waiting in the Jeep. Maybe Liz gets to unrulely after she sees Ricci and the Jeep, so they hit her on the head with a rock or the handgun... They throw her in the back seat of the Jeep and tie her up.

Now what happened nexted could be anything.... ~ Maybe they hit her too hard on the head and she died or would not wake up. ~ Ricci partner takes Ricci back home and he is suppose to deliver Liz to the drug dealer, but something goes wrong. Maybe Ricci's partner decides to rape her before turning her over and he ends up killing her in a struggle. ~ Or Ricci & Partner or just the Partner deliver Liz to the drug dealer... and the drug dealer killed her and threaten Ricci and his family again if Ricci spilled the story to police. ~ Or the drug dealer still has her and again threatened Ricci and his family lives if Ricci spilled the story to police.

The point here is if Ricci did this kidnapping or took part in it, it could be possible that once he spills the story. The drug dealer will have Ricci's family killed and/or will have Ricci killed on the inside. Maybe Ricci's partner was killed when they delivered Liz to drug dealer and Ricci knows the drug dealer is serious about killing whom he may have to if they get in the way.

Now before you go knocking this theory down... It could be very possible that Ricci was willing to come up with Liz to pay off is debt to this person (drug dealer or whatever he is) Never think that someone high up in the community living in a nice home may not actually be a large scale drug dealer. They would also have up front business to help hide the cash flow or the drug dealings.

If you think about this theory it would explain alot of the reports in the media and what the police have said. Another thing is this drug dealer may not only be dealing drugs. He maybe also in the underground porno business and Elizabeth was something he wanted... Ricci may have had a bad debt, Liz may have been the payoff.

Whew!

All I can do is quote sandude from yesterday:

How refreshing to see someone that has not been sucked into the circus that this thread is becoming. Most of the posters just won’t be satisfied unless there is some grand conspiracy by influential people. While at times it has been "fun" to follow their baseless claims, I'm afraid that their rants have begun to sound like the spasms of a hopelessly broken record, playing the same song over and over and over and..... You know what I mean. Now those people would label me as a "Smart Family Apologist". I'd be happy to entertain their notions as soon as they can back up their wild theories with ONE SINGLE FACT. I see a grieving family who is desperate to get their beautiful daughter / niece / cousin back home where she belongs. As far as a law enforcement conspiracy, well it just defies logic. I'm not saying it's impossible, but once again their is no substantial fact to substantiate their innuendo. I, like you, will rely on theories that are at least plausible as to the KNOWN FACTS of this story.

sandude

Do you have that ONE SINGLE FACT?

This is not a bizarre theory. It makes sense that Ricci is not talking about the Jeep because he is protecting someone -- likely his wife and stepson. Obviously, he is not protecting himself, and IF the premise is correct -- that he did take the Jeep out of the shop -- there has to be a reason he's not talking, and that's a good one, even though it's not the only feasible one.

As for the person behind the scenes being a drug dealer -- drug dealers who live in exclusive neighborhoods are not terribly unusual. The neighbors are always surprised that the guy was not the upstanding citizen they assumed him to be, simply because he lived next door to them. The ordinary street dealer does not fall into this class of course -- most of them live in the slums. But someone much higher up the chain can live higher on the hog.

The purported drug dealer can be anyone who is involved in an illegal enterprise -- or even a legal one. There are plenty of men who are not pedophiles (restricting the definition of pedophilia to kids under age 12) who lust after nubile teenage girls. The vast majority of them don't act on it, because it is taboo -- but some do, and if they are wealthy, it's easier for them to get what they want.

IMO, it doesn't matter why the girls slept together. Each of my kids has their own room, but only two of those rooms are used for sleeping because they sleep together. We have a large family and my kids are used to having lots of people around. They do not like being alone at night, mostly because they are not used to being alone during the day.

The abductor's attire is bandied about as being that of the upper class, but that's a standard middle-class "uniform" too (the work "uniform" being a suit).

It is typical for drug dealers to issue terroristic threats against the loved ones of people who owe them money. The Mafia does that too.

There is an article in the "Special Reports" section of the Deseret News about child porn in Utah. (If not there, then in the Trib).

I think your theory works as well with the known facts as any other. It does hang together. The simplest scenario is still the most likely, but there are reasons for the cliche, "the truth is stranger than fiction".

I've been associated with cases in which the story is so strange that you'd swear I made it up if I didn't have trial transcripts and evidence to prove it. In these cases, everything looked believable on the surface, but turn over the rock and underneath was a maggot infestation.