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Smart Case, July 30, 2002
07/30/02 | Jolly Green

Posted on 07/29/2002 10:08:58 PM PDT by Jolly Green

Time Line
06/05/01 Tuesday Ricci steals items from the Smart home while he is employed there as a handyman. Ricci is charged in July of 2002 of 1 count of theft related to the Smart incident.
05/30/02 Thursday ~ Ricci returns to pick up his Jeep at the auto repair shop before the shop has a chance to fully fix it He tells the repairman that it needed for an emergency.
06/04/02 Tuesday ~ Ricci is at work from about 9am to 5:30pm
~ Ricci claims he spends the evening with friends
06/05/02 Wednesday ~ 1:05am - 2 cars are spotted on the SLC Shriner's Hospital Parking Lot by a hospital security guard, two blocks from the Smart residence
~ 1:30am (approx) - Elizabeth is kidnapped from her home
~ 1:30am - Ricci claims to be in bed asleep with his with wife.
~ Ricci is scheduled to be off work all day today.
~ 7:21am - Rachel/Amber alert is issued and national media is involved.
~ 8:30am - Ricci and his neighbor talk about the kidnapping of Elizabeth, Ricci seems to know too much information about it.
~ Sometime during this day Ricci is visited by police in regards to Elizabeth's kidnapping as reported by Angela Ricci (Richard A. Ricci's Wife which is an ex-convict herself)
~ Ricci is seen by his neighbor digging a hole by his (Ricci's) trailer early in the morning. (heard the neighbor say this on TV)
06/06/02 Thursday ~ Ricci is scheduled to work from 9am to 5:30pm today, but instead works from 10:30am to 7:00pm
~ Police talk to Ricci this day about the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping. (The media is reporting this, so it could be wrong)
06/08/02 Saturday ~ Ricci returns the Jeep to the repair shop to get it fixed. The Jeep is muddy and the repair shop owner sees Ricci remove seat covers from the back of the jeep and place them into a plastic garbage bag that already contains other stuff in it. Also the repair shop owner said a muddy post hole digger was in the back of the Jeep, Ricci removes this also. Ricci has a man waiting across the street to give him a ride. Ricci takes the plastic bag and contents along with the post hole digger with him. Also there is 500 to 1000 extra miles on the Jeep since Ricci picked it up on May 30th, 2002.
06/14/02 Friday ~ Ricci is taken into custody for a parole violation, this being drinking while on parole and association with other ex-cons.
07/11/02 Thursday Formal charges are filed against Ricci (2 counts of theft & 1 count of burglary) on the theft & burglary of the Smart neighbors home which occurred in April 2001, and 1 more count of theft for stealing from the Smart home on June 6th, 2001.
Special thanks to Brigette for starting this timeline.


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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: Iwo Jima
5. The mastermind is a "respected member of the community" who sees himself as being so important and beyond reproach in his world that he acutally believed that he could do this and get away with it. He may or may not have a connection or relation to the family, but I believe that Elizabeth knew and respected him.

I know that you don't like to have hard facts get in the way of your theory, but the quote from police never said "respected member of the community" and it never said "trusted member of the community". MadisonA provided the following on the July 25th thread:

I think the exact quote by Atkinson on June 19th is "We believe that this person may be a trusted person in the neighborhood or in the community. [It] might be someone ... that had reason to be here, that had reason to come across the family, all those kind of things we still believe,"

The quote provides a far wider interpretation than the incorrect "member of the community" you are assuming to be the case. Ricci fits nicely into the interpretation of the exact quote without any assistance from a Mr. Big neighbor.

22 posted on 07/30/2002 10:57:29 AM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Jolly Green
You are frantically grapsing at starws. There is no way that any sane person could believe Ricci, a known low-life and ex-con, to be "a trusted person in the neighborhood or in the community." That's pathetic.

I will not sit here and let you trash Salt Lake City by arguing that Ricci amounts to one of its trusted citizens. The only place where Ricci was ever trusted was apparently in prison, and that was probably a mistake.
23 posted on 07/30/2002 11:13:32 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Iwo Jima
"grapsing at starws" should be "grasping at straws."

I swear, I don't know which is worse -- my typing or my eyes.
24 posted on 07/30/2002 11:18:21 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: brigette
Remember the day the chief of police stated that he believed they have already talked to the perp...Wasn't that the same day they talked with Ricci? Who else did they talk with that same day?
25 posted on 07/30/2002 11:19:32 AM PDT by Bella
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To: Jolly Green
Picture of Uncle Tom's $1.12M house for sale now posted here. I suspects he's getting ready to move to Winterton Farms.
26 posted on 07/30/2002 11:29:44 AM PDT by The people have spoken
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To: Bella
That's interesting. By "perp" did you understand him to mean the actual abductor?
27 posted on 07/30/2002 11:32:21 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Iwo Jima
I realize that you have limited resources, BUT Ricci was trusted in the Smart home and one or more other homes in the neighborhood for several months UNTIL the theft of the Smart home. No one in the neighborhood had any idea about Ricci's criminal past and Ricci is known to be a smooth talker. Nice try, but you are going to have to do a lot better than that.
28 posted on 07/30/2002 11:55:58 AM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: All
Did anyone here as the question: Who was it that recommended Ricci to Ed Smart ?

I was looking at transcripts, and ran across this one site, who had this posted. I find it interesting, and didn't think we asked this question of WHO recommended Ricci to Smart.

Wednesday, July 17, 2002

By Michael Y. Park

NEW YORK — Elizabeth Smart's father had no idea the man he hired as a contractor last year, Richard Albert Ricci, was a career criminal with a record that included burglary and attempted murder.

Ed Smart never would have hired Ricci had he known of the handyman's criminal past, the father of the missing 14-year-old girl has said.

But a quick glance at laws around the country show there are few guarantees that home contractors have a clean past, since most states that license them don’t require criminal background checks.

Had Utah run such a check on Ricci, they would have likely found a forest of red flags. Beginning with a burglary conviction in 1973, Ricci had been in and out of jail for 29 years, freed on parole most recently in 2000. Among his convictions: aggravated robbery, attempted homicide and a prison escape.

Ricci was charged last Thursday with one count of burglary and one count of theft for allegedly stealing $3,500 worth of items from the Smart home last June. He faces another count of theft for allegedly taking items from the home of a Smart neighbor, where he also worked as a handyman.

Utah requires anyone doing construction work in the state, including electricians and plumbers, to get a license from the Division of Occupational and Professional Licensing. To qualify for a license, a contractor has to provide proof of insurance, register with the state tax commission and a bevy of state employment divisions, and provide a financial statement and three credit reports for each key employee.

The focus is on standards of professional experience, not on a contractor’s criminal history.

It’s much the same in Alabama, where any general contractor working on a residential project of $10,000 or more must be licensed. Though a potential licensee goes through the usual gamut of questions about his work history, and though the state takes a hard stance on scam artists trying to rip off unsuspecting homeowners, a criminal background check just doesn’t figure into the process.

"We ask them if they’ve been convicted of any crime associated with the construction business, and if we find out they’ve lied, we deny or revoke the license," said Chip Carden, executive director of the Alabama Home Licensure Board. "If they broke a law that doesn’t involve the construction business, there’s not a whole lot the board does about it."

Some states don’t even go that far. In Illinois, for example, most construction contractors, except for roofing workers, don’t need to be licensed at all. In New York, only asbestos-abatement contractors are licensed at the state level. All others are regulated locally.

Steve Schmidt, executive director of the National Association of State Contractor Licensing Agencies, in Scottsdale, Ariz., admitted it’s easy for an ex-con to slip through the cracks of states’ regulatory agencies.

"Many states are going to be asking, 'Are you convicted of a felony or have you have a license revoked in other states?'" he said. "Obviously, that's not a foolproof method."

Regulations aren't any tighter when it comes to nationwide organizations. Though some federal agencies require background checks for security reasons – the departments of Defense and State, for example – there are no across-the-board requirements for construction workers who are awarded federal contracts, according to Scott Brown, spokesman for Associated Builders and Contractors.

The Rosslyn, Va.-based trade organization represents over 23,000 construction and construction-related firms in the U.S.

The state of Nevada is the strictest of the states when it comes to checking out the criminal background of potential licensed contractors, Schmidt said.

Applicants in the Silver State have to go through a credit-history check and hand in four notarized references and Social Security verification. If there's anything fishy about any of those, the state does a criminal-background check that goes back 10 years in most cases, or even further if it seems something serious is afoot.

In some extreme cases, the state will even take fingerprints of the applicants. That has already uncovered two cases of false identity, said Nevada State Contractors Board spokeswoman Sonya Ruffin. About 10 percent of applicants go through a criminal-background check, she said.

But even Nevada's system has its limits, leaving final discretion up to homeowners, she said.

"Only the principals of the license are checked – it doesn't say anything about the people they hire," she said. "Be wary of the people your people are hiring. If it's not a person who's in a reputable company in the community, you take that risk."

After the Smart kidnapping, things might change.

Although criminal background checks in the contracting world are rare, drug testing is becoming more and more common, Brown said. The group encourages drug testing throughout the construction industry.

And Schmidt said that requiring criminal background checks will be an issue at a national contractors conference in Las Vegas in September.

Carden said giving licensing agencies the power to conduct criminal background checks could make the difference in Alabama.

"If we had the authority, yes, I think that would be great," he said. "It would help us better protect the public."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,57889,00.html

This is the site I found this on

29 posted on 07/30/2002 12:05:07 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Neenah
as=ask
30 posted on 07/30/2002 12:06:39 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Iwo Jima
I swear, I don't know which is worse -- my typing or my eyes

LOL !! I J...even if your eyes were bad and your typing was in phonics..YOU make more sense and are such a joy to read, because you are civil, smart, polite, and present your thoughts in a very pleasant way.

You respond in a civil manner to people's opninions or questions, and you...Stand up for yourself to those who blatently critisize you for your thought.

My eyes read you..my brain desyphers what you say, and my mouth says, once again...

Thank you !

31 posted on 07/30/2002 12:16:28 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Iwo Jima
That's interesting. By "perp" did you understand him to mean the actual abductor?

What I thought of, speaking for myself as to what Bella posted, was:

They talked to MANY people including family, neighbors, friends, and criminals. think

32 posted on 07/30/2002 12:22:27 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Jolly Green
I don't think of a handyman as being a trusted member of *this* community. Of course, I may be reading more into what was actually stated than was there.
34 posted on 07/30/2002 1:07:57 PM PDT by cookiedough
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To: cookiedough
Also, Ricci was a hired worked, not a trusted *member* of the community or neighborhood. Again, I may be splitting hairs here -- I learned it from my kids. :-)
35 posted on 07/30/2002 1:11:35 PM PDT by cookiedough
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To: cookiedough
worker, not worked -- I'm in the eyes/typing not so great club!
36 posted on 07/30/2002 1:12:39 PM PDT by cookiedough
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To: cookiedough
trusted *member* of the community or neighborhood

I repeat it was "trusted PERSON in the community or neighborhood", not trusted member.

37 posted on 07/30/2002 1:16:56 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: cookiedough
hahahahaha !! You can't be President..Iwo Jima is.
38 posted on 07/30/2002 1:18:01 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Jolly Green
I repeat it was "trusted PERSON in the community or neighborhood", not trusted member.

PERSON...ok...if the PERSON is trusted in a neighborhood OR community...wouldn't that make them a member of either?

You would have tobe PRESENT in either for a period of time to be RECOGNISED as such,....wouldn't you ? LOL

39 posted on 07/30/2002 1:26:12 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Jolly Green
Thank you for the compliment.

By engaging in this juvenile discussion of "person" vs. "member" (boy, there is a dirty joke in there somewhere), you have admitted that you really can't contravert any of my basic assumptions and conclusions. In other words, you have

PRAISED ME WITH FAINT DAMNS.
40 posted on 07/30/2002 1:54:16 PM PDT by Iwo Jima
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