Ditto - all I could stomach anyway. Essentially, they interviewed nobody but "true believers".
1. Even Doug and Dave admit that they got the idea of hoaxing crop circles from a still unxplained crop circle found in Australia.
Yep, but all the old unexplained ones are simply round. No glyphs, no designs, no geometrical shapes, no human thought or design is apparent.
2. There was more real-time video footage of the strange glowing "lights" that seem to accompany some crop circles.
I only saw the one. Looked like an internal lens reflection or (possibly) a horizontally traveling ball lightning.
3. As far as the mathematical relationship to the circles goes, one researcher claimed that a NEW Euclidean? theorem had been derived from the crop circles (I'm no expert on mathematics, so someone else would have to confirm this).
I am. It's utter crap.
4. The researchers also claimed a relationship between the crop circles and music.
One "researcher". Of course, it's only interpretable by him. Just more crap.
5. Researchers claimed that there was a relationship between Stonehenge and crop circles. I think what they were getting at in that case was that maybe whoever built Stonehenge and similar circular rock formations did so in commemoration of crop circles that they had seen.
They've always said that. And pyramids. And fairy rings. And, and, and... If they link it to enough things, they'll eventually find one that's useful to their fun and games.
Some quotes as best as I recall them:
"It's too perfect to be faked!"
"I came as soon as I heard about them. I traveled 17 hours to be here and as soon as I stepped into it, it was just a mystical experience."
(paraphrased)"I only became a believer after I had been investigating them for years."
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHA! What a joke.
balrog666 I am. It's utter crap.
So balrog, you're claiming that you're more of an expert in Euclidean geometry than astronomer Gerald S. Hawkins, former Chairman of the astronomy department at Boston University?
From EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY OF CROP CIRCLES :
Hawkins found that he could use the principles of Euclidean geometry to prove four theorems derived from the relationships among the areas depicted in crop circles. He also discovered a fifth, more general theorem, from which he could derive the other four (see diagram, left). "This theorem involves concentric circles which touch the sides of a triangle, and as the [triangle] changes shape, it generates the special crop-circle geometries," he says.
Hawkins' fifth crop-circle theorem involves a triangle and various concentric circles touching the triangle's sides and corners. Different triangles give different sets of circles. An equilateral triangle produces one of the observed crop-circle patterns; three isoceles triangles generate the other crop-circle geometries.
What is most surprising is that all geometries give diatonic (musical) ratios. Never before have geometric theorems been linked with music.
Curiously, Hawkins could find no reference to such a theorem in the works of Euclid or in any other book that he consulted. When he challenged readers of Science News and The Mathematics Teacher to come up with his unpublished theorem, given only the four variations, no one reported success.
Jedi Master Yoda 4. The researchers also claimed a relationship between the crop circles and music.
balrog666 One "researcher". Of course, it's only interpretable by him. Just more crap.
Again you're wrong balrog.
From EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY OF CROP CIRCLES :
"Three other patterns also displayed exact numerical relationships, all of them involving a diatonic ratio, the simple whole-number ratios that determine a scale of musical notes. "These designs demonstrate the remarkable mathematical ability of their creators," Hawkins comments.
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You really should research a topic before you claim to be an expert in it, otherwise you might find your foot in your mouth...
You are correct that the evidence was presented by mostly, if not all, "true believers." I wish that the skeptical point of view had also been presented.
I suspect that the film of the light crossing the field was an abberation of the camera, since I did not see it passing behind any trees in the region. It seemed to just go in front of all the trees. However, I don't believe that the light was ball lightning since the film did not appear to have been taken during stormy weather.
It would be interesting to find out if any of the "old" crop circles were as complex and intricate as the ones that have appeared during the past few years. The crop circle in Australia that those two British gentlemen were referring to did seem rather simple and crude compared to more modern circles.
I hope that the program on The History Channel tommorrow will present a more even-handed treatment of the subject.