Posted on 07/26/2002 11:24:55 AM PDT by Dengar01
Timing Suspicious On Mysterious Suburban Crop Circles
Could Eerie Mystery Have To Do With Movie Release?
Is it a case of mysterious crop circles -- or an elaborate movie hoax?
A soybean farmer in Naperville said the broken, concentric rings that appeared in a field off Diehl Road left him scratching his head.
"Have you ever heard of something so crazy?" Steve Berning said. "Unbelievable."
Berning said the circles appeared last weekend and damaged more than 10 percent of his 8-acre field.
The circles do resemble similar ones seen in England, but in this case, the timing of their appearance in the western suburb is a bit suspicious.
Two weeks from now, "Signs" hits the big screen. The movie starring Mel Gibson involves -- you guessed it -- mysterious crop circles.
William Leone, an investigator with the Mutual UFO Network, said soil analysis could determine whether the circles have human or extraterrestrial origins.
But Illinois Farm Bureau spokesman Dennis Vercler scoffed at that idea.
"Since I don't believe in UFOs -- at least not soybean-destroying UFOs -- I have to assume whoever did this did it intentionally as a malicious prank," Vercler said.
Meanwhile, Berning doesn't seem overly upset about the circles.
"There's some damage, which upsets me," Berning said. "But I'm more curious than anything. I"ll always be asking questions."
Based on his behavior on this thread, I have to assume his interest in this subject is more pathological than professional.
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Speaking of mild digestive upsets, I wonder where "FormerLurker" went...... the sound of crickets on this thread are deafening. Perhaps he's busy shopping for a new tin-foil toupe.....
I think he went to the Bermuda Triangle to think things over and re-charge his spiritual batteries.
Ah; "Bermuda Triangle" -- "Sacred Geometry" -- "spiritual re-charge"....... I think I see the connection.
Now listen; this is the second time I've had to warn you that FR is a family-oriented website -- continued revelations pertaining to your sordid, intimate personal life may have a corrupting influence on the morality of people reading these threads! Please, have consideration for those of use who are pure as the driven snow!
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It's true! The circles were done by 666 little green creatures using wands and the breath of their UFO exhausts to create the lovely designs in the fields. I've actually seen them doing this, but since I can't get out of this tight straight jacket and padded room, I can't get the attention of CNN, more's the pity...
Hey! Don't forget Stonehenge, Atlantis, hollow earth, UFOs, Ley lines, the pyramid inch, etc. :-))
We're not that into circles, but don't throw the idea away. Does your cult have a name yet?
In late July 2001 circlemakers John Lundberg, Rod Dickinson and Wil Russell created a complex 240ft crop circle formation (pictured right) that was commissioned by broadcaster HTV West for their 30 minute television documentary about the crop circle phenomenon. The formation took approximately 4 hours to construct under cover of darkness and was located in the Beckhampton area, in the shadow of Silbury Hill. The formation consists of eight fold geometry and is certainly amongst the most complex formations to appear in the 2001 season, spanning 240ft and consisting of 178 individual standing and flattened elements. Because of the delicate nature of the design there was very little room for error in the surveying of the formation. Try drawing the formation on paper with a compass and you'll see what I mean, let alone marking it out in a wheat field in the dead of night with the design blown up to span 240ft!
You find a simple statement of fact to be "threatening behavior" and a "gratuitous personal smear"?
1) you have not provided a scintilla of evidence to refute anything I wrote.
I've demonstrated that the "Golden Mean", phi, and Fibonacci numbers are extensively used throughout Physics and other sciences. I'll prove it furthur, but you are obviously ignorant concerning this fact, and either in ignorance or outright deception attempt to portray these topics as fringe science.
2) you have provided NO evidence that the Math Depts. of the top 50 Universities teach technical courses in "Sacred Geometry," which should be trivially easy to do, if it is as Mathematically important as you keep making it out to be.
I don't recall ever stating that the subject was taught as a mainstream course. I did however state that it is obvious to anyone who has studied the history of Mathematics that "Sacred Geometry" is in fact related to Egyptian and Greek Mathematicians, and that this geometry relates to Universal constants and relationships. This matter of "vibrational resonance" which you harp and screech about is just one aspect of a definition which some people might have used to describe "Sacred Geometry", as there IS a metaphysical aspect involved as well. Whether or not YOU believe it possible, there ARE some things that Man doesn't yet understand. IF there are entities who have been here in the past and are visiting us now, THEY may have full working knowledge of that which we currently describe as "metaphysics".
3) your bloviating threats to "prove you to be a complete, total, utterly ignorant fool" don't impress me in the least.
Neither does your bloviating hypocracy impress ME.
4) and last, but not least, I decline your "invitation" to retract my statements because, how shall I put this...........
I already have a degree in Mathematics from a top-25 University.
Oooh, aahhh. Wow.... So are you proclaiming yourself to be a genius, a renowned expert, or another Isaac Newton, Einstein, or Tesla, simply because YOU have a piece of paper from some University? Give me a break.
Now that we can perhaps drop some invectives and go back to discussing the topic at hand, let me reiterate what I had initially stated.
"Sacred Geometry" is a term that describes Universal geometric relations and constants, and had originated in ancient times. The Egyptians and Greeks, amongst other ancient civilizations, utilized this knowledge extensively.
For a proper understanding of what is meant by "Sacred Geometry", follow the links below..
SACRED GEOMETRY OF CROP CIRCLES
Now that we have a better understanding of "Sacred Geometry", let us go back to the subject of the "Golden Mean", phi. Phi is a universal constant much like pi, which also dates back to the days of the Greeks. If you are claiming that phi is unimportant and obsolete, you might as well be saying that pi, the ratio of the diameter of a circle to its circumferance, is also an obsolete and archaic notion. This would obviously be a false and untrue statement, but it does appear that is exactly what you are saying.
Your extensive links on "phi" and it's relation to "Mandlebrot sets" and Fibonacci numbers, etc., merely reaffirms my previous objection: it, like all of "Sacred Geometry" is a Mathematical curiosity, a legacy of a mystical era in Mathematics, that today is nothing more than a hobby or curiousity for a few Mathematicians.
So again, let me just educate as to the importance of the Fibonacci numbers and phi...
Physics Links
B. Quantum Transport in Fibonacci Superlattices (Dr. Yong S. Joe) The general research objective is to study quantum effects on electronic transport in a Fibonacci superlattice. We plan to study the concept of the Fibonacci sequence and the `golden mean', and the effects of the conductance and transmission in a quasi-periodic structure. We will use a mathematical model describing potential barriers whose height or separation distances vary according to this sequence. A computer program will be modified so that it can calculate the conductance of this particular system. Finally, we will analyze the computer output and determine the conductance characteristics of this quantum-quasiperiodic system.
Properties of the peaks of second harmonic light through Fibonacci-class ferroelectric domains
From Theoretical Condensed Matter Physics Group
35. W. Salejda, P. Szyszuk: The Landauer conductance of generalised Fibonacci superlattices. Numerical results. Physica. A, 252, pp. 457-564, 1998. 36. W. Salejda, M. Kubisa, J. Misiewicz, K. Ryczko, M. Tyc: Landauer conductance of generalized Fibonacci type semiconductor superlattices. Acta Phys. Pol. A, 94, pp. 514-518, 1998.
Theoretical Solid State Physics Summer term 2002
Dynamical properties of three component Fibonacci quasicrystal
Electroabsorption spectroscopy of effective-mass Al Ga As/GaAs Fibonacci superlattices
Miniband transport in quantum Fibonacci superlattices with a modulated potential
A Golden Ratio construction of the 240-vertex E8 lattice from the 24-cell D4 lattice.
Math Links
In an earlier post, you tried to bedazzle me with your mention of e^(i pi) = -1, which you failed to attribute to Euler. Another interesting relationship that Euler discovered was Euler's phi function. In fact, Euler also is known for Euler's Theorum , which is a special case of Lagrange's theorem.
Another nice treatise on Euler's phi-function is provided at Euler phi-function
Some more math links..
Golden Ratio, Fibonacci Sequence
Animation of Binet's formula for Reals
Phi in Nature and Biology Links
DNA "Grooving" Measureably Closer to PHI Embedding with Time?
Fibonacci Numbers and how they are related to flowers, pine cones, ...
Phi and the Golden Ratio in Art, Architecture and Music
Fibonacci Numbers and The Golden Section in Art, Architecture and Music
Music and the Fibonacci Series
Proportion and the Golden Ratio - Mathematics and the Liberal Arts
I've demonstated that phi, the Golden Ratio, and the Fibnocchi numbers are indeed widely utilized in everthing from Physics, Math, and are present in Nature and the Arts. The relationships are universal, and span everything from DNA up to planetary positions. Even the stock market utilizes the Fibonacci numbers for analysis.
For you to state that the Golden Ratio and the Fibonacci numbers are relics of a bygone era and are simply obsolete curiosities, I have to seriously wonder if you REALLY DO have a Degree in Mathematics, from a major university or otherwise.
Me? Corrupt people on these threads? You must be joking!
have consideration for those of use who are pure as the driven snow!
Like yourself? LOL! ;-)
Now on "Ignore Mode".
You'll see the obvious flaws in the pattern if you look, and you don't have to strain your eyes to see them. An obvious hoax.
You really have no clue about Math at all do you. I won't hold it against you, as you haven't yet proclaimed yourself an expert. You really shouldn't knock those who know more than you though, as you do look rather silly..
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