Mysterious Suburban Chicago Crop Circles

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[FormerLurker]

But he didn't, he put up a bunch of rubbish, a LARGE bunch of rubbish.

Just because you have no understanding of Mathematics or Geometry doesn't mean it's rubbish, just means you have no idea what I'm talking about...

[Texasforever]

If they are advanced enough to visit us then why are they not advanced enough to communicate in any of the languages we use? A simple child's kaleidoscope can reproduce these geometric shapes on a random basis. Are "they" testing" us? If so, to what purpose?

[FormerLurker]

If they are advanced enough to visit us then why are they not advanced enough to communicate in any of the languages we use?

They MAY already have done so. Perhaps the powers that be simply aren't telling us, so "they", whoever "they" are, find it necessary to give us something that EVERYONE will see.

A simple child's kaleidoscope can reproduce these geometric shapes on a random basis.

Not really. Crop circle formations have depicted the inner solar system, a DNA strand, the Mandlebrot set, and many other patterns whose chance of being randomly generated are at least several billion to one.

Are "they" testing" us? If so, to what purpose?

To both questions.. I don't know.

[Travis McGee]

Dennis, Dennis, Dennis.....

The dead giveaway on your post 86 "Galaxy" photo is so glaring. The main circles are all joined through their centers by the track of the first subtle "guide circle" which was tramped down first. This is clearly visible in the lower left photo. The numerous pretty smaller circles were just laid out one after another along the "guide circle" after that.

I can't believe you fall for this Art Bell crap.

[FormerLurker]

Crop circles right next to radio telescope in England.

Seems to me they would have noticed a bunch of guys in the field "hoaxing" the formations...

[InvisibleChurch]

130,000? that's way too many people...some of them ought to move out

[Travis McGee]

You sir, are a lunatic.

Harmless, I am sure.

[Brad C.]

I have no idea where you live or what your yard looks like, but it would be interesting to see if you could create similar patterns in the grass in your yard, without using a lawn mower or such devices. Such a thing would be a much smaller scale, and as such would not take nearly the man power or time to accomplish.

Naturally, you would have to allow the yard to become overgrown so that the bending of the grass would be noticable, as well as all of the tracks and footprints around the perimeter of the design. I will through in 5 bucks, as well as a case of beer. I would even offer my yard as a test bed, but I live too far away from where you are at.

[FormerLurker]

You sir, are a lunatic.

Well you were a SEAL, and I was a Marine, so who's the bigger lunatic? :)

Don't be so closed minded there sailor...

[Travis McGee]

Crop circles right next to radio telescope in England.

Seems to me they would have noticed a bunch of guys in the field "hoaxing" the formations...

In my youthful days of sneaking up to exactly that type of installation with make believe C-4 in my alice pack with my buddies (on Uncle Sam's payroll) I found out that many of them are heavily automated, and you are hard pressed to find any living human who is not buried deep in an airconditioned windowless cinderblock building. The "security" consists of a retired cop who sleeps in a corner and goes out to take a leak every hour or so, and gets about 100 feet from his soft chair by the TV set.

You could light that field on fire after marching through it with a brass band and not get noticed.

I speak from personal experience of skulking through many farmers fields at midnight in Europe and America with 4 to 8 guys loaded with packs and guns. I worried MUCH more about unknowingly crossing into a bull's pasture than waking up the farmers, or the "security" (hahahaha!) at the target.

[FormerLurker]

Incidently Travis, click on the links in post #219 if that is what you're basing your opinion on. They're links to university websites mostly, and yes, what I'm saying concerning Phi and the Golden Mean is quite true.

[Travis McGee]

Oh please spare me, your fib #s are more tiresome than being forced to endure 24 hours straigh of Art Bell interviewing Hoagland and Howell.

Yes, math and geometry exist. I am sure it was wonderful for the ancients to discover.

You are way out in LaLaLand ascribing circles done by college boys to aliens.

But even consistant confessions of hoaxers can't dent your delusions, so I will not try.

I am terrified to ask you what you think about faces on Mars.

Good night.

[Travis McGee]

YES! MATH EXISTS! YOU HAVE CONVINCED ME!

You just haven't convinced me that these are not the work of mathematically inclined pranksters outdoing each other for their amusement, at your expense.

[FormerLurker]

I speak from personal experience of skulking through many farmers fields at midnight in Europe and America with 4 to 8 guys loaded with packs and guns. I worried MUCH more about unknowingly crossing into a bull's pasture than waking up the farmers, or the "security" (hahahaha!) at the target.

Sneaking up with camoflauge and night vision goggles isn't quite the same as setting up the means to create the images below, which would be more than a simple matter in the daytime even if given quite some time to do..

That dot matrix face would be just a bit difficult to create I think.

Then when you look at the response to the "Arecibo message", well, it's more than possible that it wasn't created by guys with C-4 either..

The Chilbolton 'Arecibo message' Formation

[FormerLurker]

But even consistant confessions of hoaxers can't dent your delusions, so I will not try.

If you are presented evidence that defies your false belief and you continue to believe that which isn't, it is you who is delusional.

NO hoaxer could create a perfectly symmetrical and geometrically precise formation as we've demonstrated here, and no hoaxer has successfully done so. Go back and read the earlier posts on this thread, and if you still need specific evidence to what I've just said, I'll point you to the posts...

[FormerLurker]

Click below for info on a "hoaxter confession"...

Post #101

[FormerLurker]

That should have been hoaxter hoaxster

[FormerLurker]

The dead giveaway on your post 86 "Galaxy" photo is so glaring.

It's pretty big for a hoax, don't you think?

[dennisw]

The dead giveaway on your post 86 "Galaxy" photo is so glaring. The main circles are all joined through their centers by the track of the first subtle "guide circle" which was tramped down first. This is clearly visible in the lower left photo. The numerous pretty smaller circles were just laid out one after another along the "guide circle" after that.

Thanks for pointing out the guide circle which is missed in other photographs of this crop circle. Lets say a guide circle was laid out. How come this "guide path" is still visible is the larger circles where the grass has been matted down after the guide circle was made?

>>> Good point about the radio telescope people not knowing what goes on in the field next door. I guess no one went out for a smoke or to drive home and noticed the floodlights the hoaxers were using at night to lay out the intricate pattern. Right? Or was it made in broad daylight?

>>> Where are the braggarts to claim making all these crop circles? Nature of a prank is to want to get some credit for it

 

[dennisw]

Lovely perspective on that circle. I wonder how close that one is to a road. Where the hoaxers can be dropped off with their ropes, chains, stakes and surveyor's equipement.