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I would have answered yes, absolutely, to your question... And look forward to the follow up question regarding equality before the law.

I am a gal and a FReeper, who was not interested getting into the heat yesterday, and I still haven't read the whole thread today.

I would never have written a post like Peanut just did, because I am not bitter towards any "they", men or women. I find a bit of irony in the fact that Peanut, in a post claiming women are individuals and should be judged on their own merits, lumps all men into a group named "they".

I am a single person, never married, no children. I wish I was married, kinda hoped that it would have happened by now. Been in some great relationships and some not so great. Hopefully the next one will be the one! - And hopefully it will last.

I think we have a problem with marriages in this country. I have watched the marriages around me end for little reason, and simple boredom is now a reason to break up a child's home. I think it is sad that "for better or for worse" are now empty words for many.

I don't know entirely how to solve it. I have cringed and sympathized with men who are paying far more than a child "costs" every month to a woman who was bored with him and has set up house with a new man. Of course I have sympathized with women who were betrayed by their man because she no longer looked 25.

But to me, the debate is in the wrong arena, because to me, focusing on the trouble in divorce courts in this country is equivalent to closing the barn door after the horse has run out.

To me, the more important question is whether in this day and age, the idea of lifelong marriages is an unrealistic goal. Until we get there, then arguing about which side is right and which side is wrong will take up our time and never really solve the problem.

First, I am glad you would have answered yes.. I would certainly support you being treated fairly (but justly) in any court of law, anywhere at any time over anything.

Everyone deserves that, irregardless of their sex.

To me, the more important question is whether in this day and age, the idea of lifelong marriages is an unrealistic goal.

It's not.. but we have so many self absorbed men and women out there that divorce has become an epedimic. They think marriage is supposed to be like Allie McBeal and if you don't have a mercedes for every day of the week, or if your wife doesn't Look just like anna K when she's 50, or if you can't be a doctor, a lawyer AND a parent at the same time then you are in a "failed" marriage..

It's a Covenant before God and it's supposed to last til "death do you part" It's not disposable and it's not all bout money, sex or anything but those vows.

I know some people who still take those wovs seriously, but I think they are now in the minority.