| there is no there, there. Only mirage. I disagree. Hers is one of several tacks designed to take the discussion off the topic at hand, and on to something else. It almost doesn't matter what else. The effort is quite deliberate. It is a form of rudeness, a disruption of discussion amongst others purely out of personal pique or spite.  This thread has been remarkable in terms of staying close to the topic of the opening article, and in avoiding flame wars. That's amazing for a thread that is over 700 notes. I suspect it is because this is a subject that people want to talk about, and they will not be deterred.What I find interesting is that so few on the distaff side seem to comprehend what the thread is about. Some seem to think it is about individual marriages, and why they end, or whose fault it is if one of them does. Some see a discussion of the divorce industry as an attack on women, which itself is kind of interesting. Some see only men talking about something that doesn't interest them, or that seems like a threat to them. Their contribution is to bash. Only a few seem to comprehend that there is something profoundly odd going on... that we have as a society institutionalized a system that separates parents from their children as a matter of state policy... that we have whole government bureaus devoted to the process of removing parents forcibly from their childrens' lives. This is on the face of it an extraordinarily brutal and inhumane thing. It is a policy that one cannot find in any previously known human society. Perhaps Herod's mass killing of newborns comes closest in terms of brutal intervention into families by the state. It rips apart a parent's love for his child, it makes children wonder what happened to their father and how come daddy doesn't want me anymore, and it does this ostensibly for the convenience of women. And huge numbers of women do not understand what might be wrong, or odd, or inhumane about this. It's like they don't consider men or children to be actually human, like they are. This whole thing is just fine with them. If anyone complains, they must be whining. It seems to me that in order to do this, one must hold both men and children, and their humanity, and their love for one another, in sufficient contempt to consider ripping a parent from a child for one's own convenience a perfectly normal and acceptable thing. This is a level of self-centeredness that defies understanding by mere males. It is disturbing to see such an incredible violation of human dignity brushed off as of no concern by those who do not perceive themselves to be threatened by it. It's almost like the thought is, "Oh yeah, that happens to them. Good thing they have no feelings; I'd really hate it if that happened to me. Good idea, let's talk about me." And so the next thing we see posted is, "Yeah, but what about me?" A most enlightening thread. |