And it's sort of grimly amusing to see many of the posters, who would seek to deny the nose on their face, that the experiences that these men have gone through aren't real, that there's no bias - that marriage is just still honky-dory - and that it's all still men's fault...yadeyadeya. As if men were stupid enough to be argued into denying direct experience.
The happy thing is that, not all women are American. For American women that don't subscribe to the "It's all about me philosophy"- my sympathies - but you are rare and awful hard to find.
I travel a bit, and each time I go to South America, or recently to the ex-Soviet Union, I am struck by the unabashed femininity of the women - and the strikingly different attitudes they hold about men, women, sex and marriage. A little note on attitudes about sex. I don't know what 1950's paradigm is responsible for the cliche that men are the ones obsessed with sex - but that's laughably out-of-date. I think you all know what I'm talking about. If not, check out an average women's magazine.
But, no whining. The thing is - we have options! - but you need a passport. I've already ruined one guy by taking a trip with him to Cartagena, Colombia. Now, he just can't get interested in dating back here in Charlotte, NC - even though some women are throwing themselves at him. He's working on his next trip to Europe as I speak. Every time I go overseas - I meet a lot of guys with experiences like the ones I've heard in this thread. The difference is - they explored other options overseas, got married in some cases, and are able to smile, shake their heads - and say "Glad I'm out of that mess".
Maybe it's not for everybody. There are indeed complications. Language, culture, employment, visas, or contamination by Oprah after immigrating, but for what it's worth - it seems that it offers what marriage used to be.
And if anybody wants to flame me for my honest opinions about foreign women, go right ahead. It won't matter. :^)
Well, Yes, they are, sort of ... my son recently married a very Christian Indonesian girl who lives in the U.K. specifically because he saw what happened to me in my divorce. My daughter, on the other hand, is a class act (yes, I'm proud) -- good wife, good mother, mature. She always was mature. Son-in-law is very hard-working, a devoted family man and much more, actually. I have great admiration for him. If my daughter ever expressed any of the selfish brain-dead female nonsense coming from our universities and the young female class in this country/culture, I would verbally take her head off. If my son-in-law ever cheated on my daughter, he would hear from me immediately and in no uncertain terms. I might fly down and "drop in". I don't think these are liklihoods but I have no illusions about human fiobles, being myself human. "None of my business", you say? I don't see it that way. They're still my kids and will receive my guidance whenever I (not they) think it's appropriate. Happily, that hasn't happened for quite some years.