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To: meyer
Serious question with some nasty implications

There is an ugly truth to face there, that is clear. Never mind what is said, watch what's been done. From school systems that drug boys and push them out of the way so that girls can do better, to divorce courts that treat adult men like animals, there is a disturbing trend that suggests that -- at least in the West -- fairness to women is a much higher priority for men than fairness to men is a priority of women.

Indeed, 'fairness' may be too strong a term. There is a lack of basic human decency there that is alarming. One wonders how far it would be pushed if allowed to continue for a long time.

I have often wondered where the seemingly oppressive customs regarding women that we see in Muslim countries, India, and most of Asia come from. Things like that don't just happen, they arise in response to circumstance. It may be that we are witnessing a bout of The Circumstance. Perhaps this is just what happens when women get close to political power, and why so many human societies have evolved mechanisms to prevent it from happening.

45 posted on 07/06/2002 7:06:43 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Nick Danger
... fairness to women is a much higher priority for men than fairness to men is a priority of women.

This is going to get me thouroughly flamed, but ... women seem to a have a potential for pettiness unknown in men and a capacity to lie convincingly on almost any subject. The prevalent legal and social structures now encourage these character flaws and the consequences for men, for children and for our future are quite negative. If all little girls had been required to attend Catholic parochial school where the nuns brook no female nonsense, we would all be living in a better adult world, and I am not even Catholic. All young men, likewise, should have been required to do a stint in the army, with the same objective.

94 posted on 07/06/2002 8:02:53 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: Nick Danger
A males instincts warn him that this is the case but in the rational west we are taught to ignore our ingrained biology.
191 posted on 07/06/2002 9:41:58 AM PDT by Righty1
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To: Nick Danger
I have often wondered where the seemingly oppressive customs regarding women that we see in Muslim countries, India, and most of Asia come from. Things like that don't just happen, they arise in response to circumstance. It may be that we are witnessing a bout of The Circumstance. Perhaps this is just what happens when women get close to political power, and why so many human societies have evolved mechanisms to prevent it from happening.
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733 posted on 07/08/2002 7:23:28 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Nick Danger

However women were never even close to power in countries which became Islamic. In fact, one of the initial appeals of Islam was that it forbid the common practice of exposure of unwanted female infants.

Nor were they ever close to power in the other regions you mentioned hence that thesis is questionable at best.


785 posted on 12/29/2005 2:27:24 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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