Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: Nick Danger
We are probably going to find out in not too many years whether you are right, and I suspect that we are going to find out that men's pre-marital sexual behavior has zero to do with whether government seeks to remove adult males from those human families they do manage to form.

We don't need to wait a few years. Most children in single family homes were born out of wedlock. None of them would have been born without pre-marital sex.

You are suggesting that men take this a step further and go on a "conception strike," thus placing the continuation of the society itself in peril.

I'm only calling on men to face the reality that their concept of proving their manhood by nailing any willing woman is being used against them, but men are too obsessed with getting some to see it.

I believe government's response would be to begin supporting the children of single mothers via the tax system. There would always be loser men out there who had nothing to extract in terms of child support who would be willing to serve as society's studs. All you'd have is bunch of frustrated, celibate males who got dinged anyway in the form of higher taxation.

So men would provide the stud service, and then men in government would provide the support via tax dollars. Are men really that pathetic?

291 posted on 07/06/2002 11:49:04 AM PDT by Balto_Boy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | View Replies ]


To: Balto_Boy
Don't marry! Just practice cohabitation!
294 posted on 07/06/2002 11:58:35 AM PDT by Adevarul
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 291 | View Replies ]

To: Balto_Boy
Are men really that pathetic?

I encourage you to do some Googling on a fellow by the name of Robert Sides. Sides was a mens rights activist who had done some good things, but who became disillusioned at the lack of progress -- and the seeming indifference of most men to the kinds of things that this thread is about. A thread like we are seeing here was not possible ten, or even five years ago, when Sides was doing most of his work. To the extent a thread like this did not fall on deaf ears, it would have drawn only shrill comments from a whole coven of women like Dark Whatserface, and condecending tut-tuts from happily married men in their 60's whose advice was to shut up and take it like a man.

Sides grew weary of this, and began lashing out... not at the feminists who were lying their way to legislation, nor at the media who promulgated their lies and made the lies real, but at men themselves. More and more, his output started to sound like, "You guys are all wimps for not following me into battle. I'm out here trying to save your skins, and you're all sitting around doing nothing!"

I used to call that "insulting the customers." You don't invite the guy into your store and try to sell him your activism package by telling him he's a wimp. Yes, it is very easy to get sour on the prospects for ever changing any of this, but the alternative to plodding through it -- however long it takes -- is to watch things slide to Hell in the handbasket, and do nothing. Or stand on the sidelines, and crab at all the guys who are doing nothing. So I plod along.

I'm glad I have. This thread is absolutely amazing to someone who has been at this for a few years. Things really are changing. Men are waking up, and even women are waking up, to the fact that this "divorce industry" thing we have in this country is wrecking the joint. It is making it impossible for young people to have what we used to call "lives." And our country is much the worse off for it.

This is the beginning of how things change. It will never happen fast enough. But please do not follow Mr. Sides into the dark side. That way lies only bitterness and frustration.

326 posted on 07/06/2002 12:50:56 PM PDT by Nick Danger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 291 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson