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A 'Marriage Strike' Emerges As Men Decide Not To Risk Loss
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | July 5, 2002 | Glenn Sacks and Dianna Thompson

Posted on 07/06/2002 5:00:19 AM PDT by buccaneer81

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To: Wondervixen
If the husband isn't giving you a legitimate reason to grab up the kids and run for it and if he treats you well and with respect, it is YOUR DUTY as a woman and mother to stand by him through the poor times and weather them till the good ones return, not play horse changer in mid-stream.

Amen! Amen!

But, although the courts do seem to be stacked against the men, the blame cuts both ways. There are many lazy, immature women out there who put their stupid feelings ahead of the well-being of their children. Also, there are many immature men who marry for looks instead of searching for a woman of character. Often, people put more effort into deciding on what kind of car to buy than they invest in picking a mate.

Until our culture re-establishes marriage as a sacred commitment between a man and a woman that is to be preserved and nurtured, we are in a heap of trouble. And the biggest losers are not men or women but the children caught in the middle.

681 posted on 07/08/2002 6:00:13 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Atlantin
It's hard to tell how widespread this is. I am familiar with a certain corporate CEO of comparable intellectual ability who reguarly does the most demeaning things to her staff. I've never quite been able to decide whether she is conscious of this -- and is that mean -- or is just oblivious to the fact that other people have feelings.

In one meeting I was in, she had the person who had had a clever idea for a brochure sitting in the room, while she went around the table asking every other person in the company to criticize the brochure. How does someone do that and not understand that it is evil to use position power to insist that people crap on their peers' work... in public and in front of the president of the company? I do not understand people like that. I'm sure the person who had that idea is never going to have another one.

682 posted on 07/08/2002 6:16:07 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Dark Mirage
Perhaps you propose that men have NO responsibility for their children? A return to the 'Good Old Days'?

After all I have written in this thread, for you to come back with that is the most disingenuous piece of crap imaginable. I should have listened to those who said your motives for being here were simply to disrupt and to make snide comments.

Discussing anything with you is a waste of time. There will be no more of it for me.

686 posted on 07/08/2002 7:11:09 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Dark Mirage
I don't know anyone who has received alimony

Of course you do. The courts call it "child support". In my case, there is no reason for my ex, making 40k, living in a one bedroom apartment in small town Ohio to be getting $940 a month from me. For one five year old child. Fifty percent of that money is alimony. And I pay the taxes on it. She receives it tax free. That's justice.

687 posted on 07/08/2002 7:26:22 AM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: buccaneer81
my ex, making 40k, living in a one bedroom apartment...

Did you get the house?

688 posted on 07/08/2002 7:29:30 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Dark Mirage
(and most of my friends are men, because I do like them--I just don't expect much)

Replace "men" with "black" and see how it looks. Not pretty, is it?

689 posted on 07/08/2002 7:30:06 AM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: SouthernFreebird
Did you get the house?

Yes, and had to sell it (and give her half the profit) because I couldn't afford it on my own once the child support started coming out of me. I literally couldn't make the payment. And I can barely afford the rent I pay now. In a nutshell, after taxes, 401k contribution, health insurance and child support are deducted from my pay, I take home 37% of my gross. That's fair, huh. After all, I'm just a man.

691 posted on 07/08/2002 7:35:52 AM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: Dark Mirage
For all you know, some of that 'alimony' money is going into a college fund.

No, I know for a fact that a great deal of it goes toward her legal bills. And so what if it's going into a college fund? That's not the point. And that's not what child support is supposed to be for.(BTW, I have a degree and value higher education, but a college fund should agreed to by both parents, regardless of their marital status).

694 posted on 07/08/2002 7:42:58 AM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: buccaneer81
That's fair, huh.

Not at all...perhaps you should think about sueing for joint custody,I know, at least around here, that when both parents equally raise the child then no child-support changes hands.

695 posted on 07/08/2002 7:46:44 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: SouthernFreebird
Not at all...perhaps you should think about sueing for joint custody

In order to have joint custody, both parents have to live in or near the same school district for obvious reasons. She is now 70 miles from me, on back roads all the way. About all I have left is my job, and I need to hang on to it.

697 posted on 07/08/2002 7:50:50 AM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: Dark Mirage
You appear to have some faith in the legal system. On what basis was the $940 figure determined?

On the contrary, I have no faith in the system. It is corrupt and unconstitutional. The child support figure is based on the standard Franklin County formula. I've met men who have been hit harder than me.

698 posted on 07/08/2002 7:53:41 AM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: Dark Mirage
and on what basis was that formula determined?

That's like asking how the tax code was written. I have no idea. But I assume it would have to pass muster with the General Assembly.

700 posted on 07/08/2002 7:58:19 AM PDT by buccaneer81
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