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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Texasforever
Wars are "Declared" only against sovereign nations in order to formally notify them that a state of war exists between two sovereign states. The Declaration of War is a diplomatic formality. A Congressional Authorization to Use Force fulfills all the Constitutional requirements regarding the war making powers of Congress.

Neither the Taliban militia nor the Al Qaeda terrorist network is considered a sovereign nation and therefore a declaration of war is not appropriate in this war.

Likewise, the United States never considered the Confederate States of America to be a sovereign nation and war was never declared by Congress during the Civil War.

Prior to the Barbary War, Congress debated whether or not to declare war on the Barbary States. Congress decided that the Barbary States were no more than a collection of pirates and to declare war would dignify them with the status of sovereign states. Therefore, Congress refused to declare war and instead passed an Authorization to Use Force.

In the same Barbary War, President Thomas Jefferson stated that a declaration of war was unnecessary, whether the Barbary States were sovereign states or not, because the Barbary States had already caused a state of war to exist by attacking the United States and therefore a state of war already existed. In other words, Thomas Jefferson recognized that a Declaration of War was a diplomatic courtesy between sovereign states before the bullets started flying.

1,034 posted on 06/16/2002 10:15:14 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
Actually, Jefferson did indeed ask for a declaration however it was Hamilton that made the case that there was no reason to declare war when that war had already been declared on us. That is what won the debate and the Congress only issued a joint resolution to allow the CIC to assume war time powers.
1,046 posted on 06/16/2002 10:20:40 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Polybius, Senator Pardek
Re: your posts...

#1050 for consideration.

1,053 posted on 06/16/2002 10:23:38 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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