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(Vanity) What computer language makes a good hobby?
06-02-02 | me

Posted on 06/02/2002 4:48:12 AM PDT by Hawkeye's Girl

I'm home for the summer from college, and I'm wondering what I could learn at in my free time. I already know Scheme, LabVIEW, and Matlab, and it'd be nice to study something that would be useful for electrical engineering. What should I get a book on? C++? Unix? Something else?


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To: jsr fded
Welcome to FreeRepublic!

And for you, I would recommend the advice I gave in my #5. It would do wonders for that bitterness thing!

24 posted on 06/02/2002 12:38:32 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
Many other software types will disagree with me on this, but in my exalted opinion, the best language you can acquire for play and general edification purposes is Java.

I'm a real-time software engineer. My work world is the world of assembly languages, microcode and a little occasional C. At home, on self-edification projects where I'm under no orders but my own, I use Java. It's convenient, portable, compact enough to be mastered in its entirety, and incorporates virtually all the major conceptual advances that are (slowly) dragging programming from art to science.

I don't know that you'd put Java to use in an electrical engineering context, though any language in which you can write useful programs is potentially applicable to everything. I do know that Java will be a useful arrow in your quiver later in your career, when you start to cross disciplines or move up the managerial food chain.

Another nice thing about Java is that you can get a decent compiler for it for free on the Web, or on CD if you buy any of a number of Java instructional books. Peter van der Linden's Just Java book is a good one-volume course which includes a Java 2.0 compiler for Windows, on an accompanying CD.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
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28 posted on 06/02/2002 1:32:00 PM PDT by fporretto
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I don't know that you'd put Java to use in an electrical engineering context...

Java won't help at all in the context of an EE, except perhaps to perform engineering computations or to make measurements available on a web page. There is no substitute for learning assembler and 'c' in the electrical engineering trade. I have often wished that the guys who designed the hardware I've worked on knew how to write software.

Think about your advice to a newbie EE to write in Java, then imagine that same person designing hardware for which you'd have to write software.

Java is a passing fad.

29 posted on 06/02/2002 2:38:34 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: jsr fded
Holy Cow! I'm almost caught speechless with your #25 post. The ecomony took a bad turn following the Sept 11 attack by those peace-loving islamics. Prior to that, however, it wasn't at all difficult to find an embedded software job. I live in the Atlanta area, and there is still some employment opportunity in the field.

Judging by your reponses, you might try being a bit more introspective about your difficulties finding work in the embedded engineering marketplace. You might be losing opportunity through the interview process.

By the way, it has always helped to have a four year degree in engineering in order to obtain an engineering job. You were the one who chose the "Engineering Technology" major. If you would have done a little envestigating before making that move, you could have avoided that failing. If you want to do EE work, get an EE degree. If you want to do software work, get a software degree ... be selective here because "Information Technology" is not generally suitable for embedded programming.

Get the rivits out of your tounge, lip, and ears. (Just a guess.) Quit blaming everyone else for your crappy decisions, get an appropriate degree, then go follow your dreams. Honest, the jobs are out there. I'm working in a "startup" that is only two years old ... and that company employs 65 people who are EEs and/or embedded software types.

30 posted on 06/02/2002 2:52:00 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: jsr fded
OK - Stay pissed, stay miserable. I spent the afternoon in the sunshine watching fabulous dressage horses dance at a local horse show. It is a beautiful day, and I think when it cools out a bit I will go for a nice ride through my woods.

We only have the life that was given to us. I am going to make the best of mine. Resent every minute of yours if you like!

FRegards!

31 posted on 06/02/2002 5:13:51 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: jsr fded
Well, if you ever do get on interview, keep in mind that they are interviewing to find out which people they would like to work with, and which ones are miserable pains in the butt to be around. Your bad attitude would keep anyone from hiring you, even if you were the only qualified person on the planet.
35 posted on 06/02/2002 9:37:35 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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they'll have the guy that's outa there at five on the nose and has to fix it tomorrow after nine

... they will have the guy that doesn't make everybody miserable in between 9 and 5. Seriously. Find some happiness.

38 posted on 06/02/2002 10:21:40 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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OK sour-puss, we are going to have to go our seperate ways now. Good night.
40 posted on 06/02/2002 10:44:16 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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