[Windshark]

What Servant says is true.

You have to add a lot of love to that at the same time. It's such a tightrope walk...I think it's easy to fall off both sides....you can be overly strict and get a rebellious fool. You can be overly sentimental in your love and get a rebellious fool.

And when they act that way, even a little it hurts big time.

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At least my kids have seen abundant bad examples at my house. I think this is good...