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Take Cover! We re seeing way too many breasts.
National Review Online | May 14, 2002 | Betsy Hart

Posted on 05/14/2002 9:07:47 AM PDT by LavaDog

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To: Darlin'
And since when is "feeding" private time? Gee!
121 posted on 05/14/2002 1:51:54 PM PDT by joathome
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To: jlogajan
"Yeah, eating pork is offensive to Muslims. So what?"

LOL. I suppose I could try to explain it to you but the point is so obviously above your comprehension that I think I'll pass. Have a nice day.

122 posted on 05/14/2002 1:57:33 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: joathome
I don't know how you were brought up but I was taught there is a time and place for everything. Breastfeeding is a private matter and should remain private.
123 posted on 05/14/2002 2:04:56 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: andysandmikesmom
Thanks for sharing those experiences. There is nothing quite like having a nursling. Before I had kids, I never gave a moment's thought as to how people fed their babies. Perhaps nursing in public would have bothered me, though I doubt it. Nothing could be more normal than feeding a baby the way they are designed to be fed. In a way, bottles offend me--they are breast dildos, after all! But no way am I going to tell someone else how to feed her kid--lol.
124 posted on 05/14/2002 2:05:07 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: Darlin'
LOL. You're making my point for me.

Quite the contrary. But I'm a patient woman, so I'll try again.

If I were being politically correct

You need to consult a dictionary. Seriously.

I'd accept your attempts to justify your bad manners

Now discreetly breastfeeding a baby in public is bad manners? WHY is it bad manners? Feel free to be specific.

125 posted on 05/14/2002 2:06:16 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: joathome
"And since when is "feeding" private time? Gee!"

Ah-ha ! I knew you didn't get it.
Always. That's the point. Breastfeeding is or should always be private time.

126 posted on 05/14/2002 2:10:15 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: joathome
I've got breasts under my clothes. Does that bother you? So why should a baby nursing discreetly at the breast under a light coverlet bother you?

But, joathome, how could you ask that? Darlin' is going to great lengths to show us how s/he is not politically correct! LOL

127 posted on 05/14/2002 2:25:22 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: willide
You couldn't be more incorrect. Just 2 generations ago, before formula came along, it was commonplace to see women feeding their babies in public. The difference b/c then and now is that there were fewer public places (ie malls and major shoppoing centers) than there are today.
128 posted on 05/14/2002 2:26:14 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Dixie Mom
Ok, but this is my last attempt. This has taken up waaaau too much time.

1. Political correctness is no more than permissive "feel good" manners. Just wrap any convenient excuse around your bad behavior then flaunt it.

2. Not all nursing mothers do so discreetly and therein lies the problem. Besides, if you take the time to discreetly nurse your baby in public why not take another minute or two and go to a private place, out of public view to nurse your child ?

129 posted on 05/14/2002 2:32:43 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Dixie Mom
I agree, formula feeding offends me too. I keep think of all the nutrients that the baby is missing out on, not to mention the protection afforded to the mother.
130 posted on 05/14/2002 2:34:04 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Darlin'
Breastfeeding is or should always be private time.

LMAO! You forgot to preface that statement with: IN MY OPINION. . .

Ok-- now please tell me how you are not trying to impose your beliefs on others, i.e. being politically correct.

131 posted on 05/14/2002 2:39:15 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: Aggie Mama
No.. pardon me Miss but I aint wrong. I was there. I lived it. Women plain wernt doing it out afore ever body. Those of us that was there know its the Lords own truth. It just plain didnt happen.

Matter a fact.. little younguns wernt even taken to restraunts. I member the time when youd never even see a baby at a eatin out place... much less getting natural fed at a table.

Its just the way things was.

132 posted on 05/14/2002 2:40:48 PM PDT by willide
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To: Darlin'
Just wrap any convenient excuse around your bad behavior

Aaarugh! <head-bang-wall>

WHY is it bad behavior? That's YOUR OPINION. By imposing YOUR OPINION on others, you are expecting the world to conform to what YOU deem appropriate. Now, again, be specific as to why you deem discreet public nursing to be bad behavior, and we can go from there.

Oh, BTW, this is a freebie. You can thank me later:

Main Entry: politically correct
Function: adjective
Date: 1936
: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated


133 posted on 05/14/2002 2:44:04 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: Darlin'
Since you indicate that you have never breastfed, I believe you are misinformed about somethings. Ideally, breastfeeding is a wonderful, intimate bonding experience shared between mother and baby, just like mealtime with my older kids is a "wonderful, intimate bonding experience". However, we also live in the real world, and sometimes mealtimes are for sustenance and done in a bit of a hurry, as well. It's the same way with babies, darlin'.

Nursing is a natural, non-sexual experience that shouldn't bother anyone but the prudes of this world when done M-O-D-E-S-T-L-Y!

134 posted on 05/14/2002 2:50:33 PM PDT by joathome
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To: Darlin'
"2. Not all nursing mothers do so discreetly and therein lies the problem. Besides, if you take the time to discreetly nurse your baby in public why not take another minute or two and go to a private place, out of public view to nurse your child ?"

Because frequently the only alternative is a hot, sweltering car or a filthy bathroom! Which place would you prefer to spend 30 minutes with a baby clinging to you? Geesh.

135 posted on 05/14/2002 2:52:32 PM PDT by joathome
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To: Aggie Mama
I agree, formula feeding offends me too. I keep think of all the nutrients that the baby is missing out on, not to mention the protection afforded to the mother.

Aggie Mama, it is such a pleasure to discuss this with some one who "gets it!" Mom wins, the baby wins, we all win in terms of lower health care costs for breastfed infants.

Anyone who has nursing experience knows it can be done without revealing a thing. The exhibitionists out there are another matter altogether.

136 posted on 05/14/2002 3:03:18 PM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: Dixie Mom
"WHY is it bad behavior? That's YOUR OPINION. By imposing YOUR OPINION on others,..."

Granted, it is my opinion along with that of polite society. That you can not or will not accept it speaks volumes about you. Thank you for that quaint but dated 1936 definition of politically correct.

137 posted on 05/14/2002 3:13:37 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: joathome
"Which place would you prefer to spend 30 minutes with a baby clinging to you? Geesh."

Thank you. You just made my point. You do it for your personal convenience.

138 posted on 05/14/2002 3:20:20 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Dixie Mom; Aggie Mama
I am agreeing here with you both...I also always found bottles and formula to be not what I wanted for my babies...just the warmth of a young baby, against your breast, contentedly nursing, is an experience so dear and wonderful....and moms milk is certainly better for babies, than formula....

In addition, babies with cows milk allergies, can avoid all the problems with allergies, if they are breastfed....as my younger boy got to be to where he could take milk in a cup, or munch on some cheese, or enjoy a little ice cream, I noticed he was developping a mild rash....when I took him to the doc for his monthly well baby visit, before I could say a word, the doc came in, noticed the rash, immediately commented that I must be feeding my baby dairy products, and then he said, "stop it, and just keep nursing him, it appears he is allergic to cows milk and hence that rash...

By nursing him, I avoided all the problems inherent in having a baby with a cows milk allergy...

Eventually the allergy disappeared and he can and does ingest huge amounts of dairy products with no ill effect...

So breastfeeding not only gives your baby the most perfect food, and provides a loving and strong bond between baby and mom, it also prevents harmful effects from any potential milk allergies...

139 posted on 05/14/2002 3:47:26 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Darlin'
2. Not all nursing mothers do so discreetly and therein lies the problem. Besides, if you take the time to discreetly nurse your baby in public why not take another minute or two and go to a private place, out of public view to nurse your child ?

1 - Is this really a problem? Are you really seeing indiscreet bare breasted women everywhere? - or are you arguing that the idea of it bothers you, whether you have actually ever seen it or not? I will reiterate, that I have only rarely seen women nursing in public where I could even tell what they are doing. Most women do, in fact, have some sense.

2 - As to your point about going to a private place. For purposes of discussion lets just say she is at a mall. As has already been pointed out to you, often the choice might be a hot car or a bathroom... So a woman should quietly sit where, on the toilet for 30 minutes? and her other child(ren) do what? - play in the other stalls?

What is really wrong with her slipping into a booth at one of the fast food places, ordering some snacks to entertain her other child(ren) for 30 minutes and quietly and discreetly breastfeeding the other? And I do mean what is really WRONG with it? Only a really nosy person would even notice, and they would notice what? A babe in the arms of a mom.

140 posted on 05/14/2002 4:13:40 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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