[Servant of the Nine]

It belongs in the same category of perverted religion as self-flagellation.

I thought you had decided to go along with Melanchthon and look for similarities, not condemn the differences you don't understand in other Christian sects? You are beginning to sound like Jimmy Swaggart again.

So9

[ValerieUSA]

I understand that self-torture and confusion are denial of the sufficiency of Christ and usurption of the Holy Spirit's authority. Gimmickry is cultish and/or commercial. That much understanding keeps me from understanding how shallow = deep, or worldly = heavenly. Yes, I've been contemplating my belly button again, though I need a mirror to see it.