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In the case of the settlement of America the Pilgrims had a destination that was even better (potentially) than the homes they left. This is beautiful, productive, vast land - not an ocean, not a desolate moon. They believed that God had led them here and would bless their efforts with success and bounty. They encountered hostility and stormy weather and starvation, but the survivors persevered because they had faith coupled with "no choice." Later, their descendents would face the same trials at Valley Forge.

Do you think a new settlement by this generation would survive as long as there was an option to leave if the going got tough? Would people DIE (and witness the deaths of their wives and mothers) rather than give up the dream? Will God place such a dream in our hearts? There is no instant gratification in such a movement.

In the case of the settlement of America the Pilgrims had a destination that was even better (potentially) than the homes they left. This is beautiful, productive, vast land - not an ocean, not a desolate moon.

You're kidding, right??

The ONLY thing the Pilgrims had to go on, were the descriptions of others who had previously made the three month journey. By 1620, it wasn't exactly guaranteed money that a ship would make it all the way here.

They left perfectly good land in Holland (at least the Mayflower Pilgrims did), for the chance to work like DOGS, and to BUILD an entirely new society based on THEIR beliefs.

And for the chance to build that society completely from scratch.

I think that took a lot of courage. Looking into the unknown is fairly safe, but to boldly venture out into it is exponentially more courageous. Separatists are not easily frightened.

Would YOU agree to be an indentured servant, in order to make it to a place where your survival was NOT guaranteed, and where your only reward would be FREEDOM??

Do you think a new settlement by this generation would survive as long as there was an option to leave if the going got tough? Would people DIE (and witness the deaths of their wives and mothers) rather than give up the dream? Will God place such a dream in our hearts? There is no instant gratification in such a movement.

I don't know about YOUR generation, but I have faith in MY abilities, and those of other Gen X-ers.

If we did it this time, we wouldn't have to learn how to fertilize crops using dead fish, and we wouldn't have to compete with an indigenous people for resources. With the technology available today, it wouldn't HAVE to be any more inconvenient than camping out, until it was better established.

The notion of 'terraforming' would come into play where extraterrestrial colonization was to be attempted. (unless you were gonna live in orbit.)

Personally, I am drawn to the idea of a floating colony, acting as a financial center, and with aquaculture as a significant revenue generating activity.

Popular Science explored that idea several years ago to some extent, and it didn't sound too outrageous to me. After establishing a floating, or underwater colony, space colonization would NOT seem too hard to undertake.

Humans need big dreams and goals.

Do people die TODAY for the defense of America and the dream that America provides, even in it's current Collectivist subverted condition??