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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian;rnmomof7
Frankly, Rev, if your belief system is not true, warning you so is the most Christian thing a person can do.

I rejoice your passion in faith runs so high, I suggest though it instead be placed in Jesus. Your self righteousness merely proves to everyone here you are a wilfull soul, and that (my brother in Christ) is no Christian attitude despite your amirable intent to open the eyes of others. I worry someone new in faith may find your demeanor repugnant, and that would not be effective in winning souls for Christ. With prayer and Christs grace, you will mature in this aspect .

That minority of Arminians and Roman Catholics who are Saved and are Christians, are Christians despite their Arminianism and Catholicism. These belief systems do not aid the progress of the Gospel; they subvert it. These belief systems do not assist a man in attaining salvation; they hinder him.

Are you making the assertion that the Orthodox Presbyterian Church is THE body catholic? - I respectfully disagree. RNmomof7 - what are your thoughts, do you feel the same? and is this tenor typical of Presbyterians or just the 1611 Orthodoxy crowd?

41 posted on 03/26/2002 4:37:40 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: RNmomof7;ward smythe;ccwoody
They will indeed whine and cry and hit abuse..and if they have their way silence the gospel..and then they will blame it on us...They are Pathetic crybabies and Christ haters. #2740 posted on 3/22/02 1:57 PM Eastern by RnMomof7

Mom tried to say that it wasn't directed at the Arminians when it was a clear response to OPs post regarding Arminians. The last thing I saw on the thread was when Mom told me I made OP a prophet - I guess because I complained about her calling us "Christ haters." Who could've predicted we'd object to that?

Ergo, the vast majority of Arminians are not saved, and are not Christians. #2730 posted on 3/22/02 1:07 PM Eastern by OrthodoxPresbyterian

Rnmomof7 is this accurate - do you consider me a "Christ Hater" or have you been misinterpreted by WS? -

42 posted on 03/26/2002 5:02:28 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911, RnMomof7
Frankly, Rev, if your belief system is not true, warning you so is the most Christian thing a person can do. ~~ I rejoice your passion in faith runs so high, I suggest though it instead be placed in Jesus. Your self righteousness merely proves to everyone here you are a wilfull soul, and that (my brother in Christ) is no Christian attitude despite your amirable intent to open the eyes of others. I worry someone new in faith may find your demeanor repugnant, and that would not be effective in winning souls for Christ. With prayer and Christs grace, you will mature in this aspect.

Nope. Uprooting doctrinal error is not self-righteousness, no matter how much ecumenists who oppose the idea of absolute truth would like it to be.

The modern church is addicted to that doctrinal poison, the "soveraigne drugge Arminianisme" (and remember, this is how the arminians described their theological construct). Judgment falls first upon the house of the Lord; the church must break her addiction to lies.

Telling a crack addict he should overcome his addiction is neither judgmental nor self-righteous. You can say it's judgmental and self-righteous, of course; but reproving a man of his addiction to poisons remains the morally right thing for a Christian to do.

Are you making the assertion that the Orthodox Presbyterian Church is THE body catholic? - I respectfully disagree. RNmomof7 - what are your thoughts, do you feel the same? and is this tenor typical of Presbyterians or just the 1611 Orthodoxy crowd?

I am simply making the assertion that "Calvinism is the Gospel, and nothing else" (Charles Spurgeon). I don't mind a bit that such statement was made by a Calvinist Baptist; I am no "pure partisan" of the OPC (although obviously, I am OPC partly because I adjudge them to be the most doctrinally correct denomination around, but that is a very different thing from saying the OPC is the only game in town).

My interest is more broadly in the Doctrine of Sovereign Grace, whether preached by Orthodox Presbyterian, Calvinist Baptist, or Reformed Episcopalian, etc... this is the Gospel, and nothing else, whether it be preached in a Presbyterian church, or another; the "master narcotic" of Arminianism must be reproved and cast out of the churches.

43 posted on 03/26/2002 5:11:15 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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