Posted on 03/15/2002 6:54:33 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
Repost – Highlights from chapters 1-5 copied from the original forum to the new one. To reference the full version, click here: Original Green Dragon Inn Within the first five chapters... disregard the reply numbers... they wont work.
Thank you ecurbh, for copying and editing our old thread so that the highlights could be moved here! Highlights of the first five chapters from the old thread are pasted into the first 5 replies here. For those of you who are just joining you… as of this post we are beginning Chapter 6.
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Welcome to The Green Dragon Inn
Approaching The Green Dragon Inn
Hobbiton, in The Shire
The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And wither then? I cannot say.
- JRR Tolkien
Politics also goes ever on and on.
This is a place for FReeper Tolkien fans to come and take a break from the impure reality of conservative activism and relax a little with a great story. We (the other co-conspirators and I) would like to study together the writings of Tolkien, beginning together, and discussing as we go through The Lord of the Rings together.
This is a chapter discussion, roughly one chapter per week, with the discussion mostly centered on the books, though of course the movie will be contrasted and compared, and perhaps used to illustrate another interpretation of the story.
Every week, someone from the group (maybe me) will ping The Green Dragon List to the new Chapter, but we will continue this one thread until it becomes too cumbersome…. Let me know if you would like to be on - or off - this list. I will for now serve as the Thain of the list.
If you are joining late, jump right in, but please stick to the chapter currently being discussed.
Some have loved this story a long time, and some are newly discovering it. If you fit either category, we invite you to join in, but we would like this thread to stay mostly focused on the chapter at hand and keep moving, but at a pace everyone can keep up with… No jumping ahead, and no lagging behind! If you have other news to report or wish to discuss something Tolkien in more general terms… May we recommend the equally homey Hobbit Hole where my co-conspirators and I frequently have plenty of good talk.
One other request…. This thread will get long. In recognition that images slow down the thread for many, let’s keep the posting of images to a minimum on this thread. If there is a great illustration you wish to share, let’s try to use links instead of images wherever possible.
So lets read, listen and become inspired by the many aspects of The Lord of the Rings that touch us deeply and reconnect us to the values we aspire to. Many great discussions have already been had, and I hope that this thread will produce even more. Many FReepers have wonderful things to say about LoTR, whether the fantasy reconnects them with their faith, with their relationships with friends and family, or simply illustrates the splendor of great acts of heroism and sacrifice in the constant battle of virtue versus corruption.
Though it is a work of fiction, we believe the inspiration to be gained can only help us in our larger political goals: to appreciate and defend our freedom, our culture and our political ideals. May the fellowship and insight gained from this discussion help us to work through the issues that are the basis for our many shared ideals.
Besides, we Tolkien fans* need something to keep us busy during the next two years of waiting for the next two films. If you do not enjoy this story, then please simply leave us be.
*Also known as Geeky Hobbity Weirdos, obsessive fanatics, you name it, we have heard it and we see these names as compliments. In other words: don’t act like a troll, or we will distract you with our endless babble until the morning sun turns you to stone.
Oh, well. Someone pass me a dunce cap and I'll go sit in the corner... (sigh)
Not Took Corner, though.
Yeah, well if it hadn't been for "stupid weak" Boromir, Pippin and Merry wouldn't have.....and the Ents would not have....and Aragorn wouldn't have....Oh you get the picture you Bill Gates fan, you!
Hmmmm.... spicy wings?
Usually Buffalo ...er...Balrog wings.
This is one of those parts where their inner thoughts would have been helpful to the movie goer.
I'd argue against that, but I can't trust my memory.
And in the movie a third of the Company lets him go off by himself...
If they went after Frodo and Sam, who was going to save Merry and Pippin? If I recall correctly (blush) Aragorn makes that point in the book... did he make that point in the movie?
I guess I was trying to say that the movie version was more moving than the book version.
And Merry and Pippin (in the movie)...who in Rivendell so insisted on going with Frodo ...tell Frodo to run when they could all have stayed under cover and avoided the Orcs. Okay Pippin is clueless sometimes :) but he should have been afraid enough of the Orcs to keep hidden!
I like the way the scene was handled in the book better. In the book, there is always this "tension" [I'm too lazy to consult a thesarus for a better word] between Frodo not wanting to put his friends in danger and his friends not wanting to let Frodo go it alone. So you're always wondering if it's Frodo or his friends who will win that contest. For Aragorn, Merry, and Pippin to just let him go ruins the whole thing! :)
I also don't see it as diminishing him. I don't think they read him because he's shallow or anything, they can read him because they know his heart is true. IMHO :-)
uhmmmmm, ok, I'd agree with you on that.
Once the DVD comes out, I'll be able to argue these points better. (sigh, smile!)
Frodo wasn't going anywhere until the Orcs had passed by!
Movie Frodo didn't behave right either. If he really wanted to give everyone the slip he would have put on the Ring like he did in the book:
"I must go now or I shall never go. I shan't get a chance again. I hate leaving them, and like this without any explanation. But surely they will understand. Sam will. And what else can I do?"Slowly he drew out the Ring and put it on once more. He vanished and passed down the hill, less than a rustle of the wind.
I think those balrog wings may have a little "smoky" flavor...
That is the question! :)
Yeah! I'll agree with you there. I was disappointed we didn't get to see the boat sliding by itself into the river, Sam chasing after it, and the invisible Frodo rescuing him from the river.
For good or ill, I'm still up... but fading fast! :)
those balrog wings may have a little "smoky" flavor
hehe, smoky and fiery, sounds about right!
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