[carton253]

Yeah... I didn't know the background... so, since I'm a detail freak, any detail I learn just builds on the story. That helps explain some of Denethor's anger at Gandalf.

[Overtaxed]

Denethor preferred Saruman to Gandalf in the first place. If memory serves, Ecthelion II, Gandalf and Thorongil were all very chummy and at that time Denethor suspected Gandalf was trying to put Thorongil ahead of him in the Steward sucession. BTW this stuff is in Appendix A under Stewards of Gondor.

[Overtaxed]

Denethor preferred Saruman to Gandalf in the first place. If memory serves, Ecthelion II, Gandalf and Thorongil were all very chummy and at that time Denethor suspected Gandalf was trying to put Thorongil ahead of him in the Steward sucession. BTW this stuff is in Appendix A under Stewards of Gondor.