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To: HairOfTheDog
Did you hear PJ say that the Evenstar will play a role in TTT and RoTK?
41,331 posted on 11/13/2002 11:57:01 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen; ecurbh
Yes... I heard him talking about the Evenstar as a symbol... and I liked his reasoning.

Its role in TTT is probably already known from the trailer, because we have already seen the conversation where Eowyn asks Aragorn about it.

I liked his explanation of the scene at the ford, where Arwen says "What grace is given me, let it pass to him". (Pinging ecurbh because we talked about this scene once).

He said that that part of the scene was filmed in a pickup later. When they started to put the film together, they realized that with the "car chase" nature of the way the flight to the ford looked on screen, the film had lost touch with the critical nature of Frodo's condition when they departed the trollshaws. That Frodo had been lost in the excitement of the chase.

Her words "What Grace is given me, let it pass to him" are pulled from the end of the story, where Arwen grants Frodo her place at the Grey Havens.

From the appendix: "At the end of the First Age the Valar gave to the Half-elven an irrevocable choice to which kindred they would belong. Elrond chose to be of Elven-kind, and became a master of wisdom. To him therefore was granted the same grace as to those of the High Elves that still lingered in Middle-earth: that when weary at last of the mortal lands they could take ship from the Grey Havens and pass into the Uttermost West; and this grace continued after the change of the world. But to the children of Elrond a choice was also appointed: to pass with him from the circles of the world; or if they remained, to become mortal and die in Middle-earth. For Elrond, therefore, all chances of the War of the Ring were fraught with sorrow".

So that, at any rate, was PJ's reasoning.
41,350 posted on 11/13/2002 12:15:14 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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