[RosieCotton]

But I wonder if that's what usually happens. Do guys still do that, ask the girl's dad if it's OK?

I wouldn't know about such things, being the old spinster I is. ;-)

I guess I wouldn't expect guys to do that anymore, but I for one would find it touching if he did. I guess I'm kind of old fashioned at heart.

[RosieCotton]

I was so touched, I forgot to close my italics...