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To: RosieCotton
No! It is not OK to feel the way you do!

Elrond did not dictate that Frodo should continue to carry the ring! - Only observed correctly that he had so far shown more resistance to it than some MEN he knew would. He decided to hold the council so that all could decide...

Hopefully Frodo would volunteer, but would not have sent him alone! Gandalf was hinting that the ring could stay in Rivendell, and Elrond was stating only that it could not. The elves did not have the power to withstand both Mordor and Isengard. No... another solution must be found!
25,259 posted on 09/12/2002 1:24:24 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Elrond did not dictate that Frodo should continue to carry the ring! - Only observed correctly that he had so far shown more resistance to it than some MEN he knew would. He decided to hold the council so that all could decide...

Yeah, well I STILL don't like his tone of voice! (The movie Elrond.) He was hinting that Frodo continue, you know he was! ;-)

25,262 posted on 09/12/2002 1:30:33 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: HairOfTheDog
OK, NOW explain why Elrond didn't take the ring from Isildur in the first place! In the discussion I had with my family, we said it's possible that it would have destroyed Isildur (for the same reasons that Gandalf couldn't forcibly take the ring from Bilbo), but doesn't the good of the many outweigh the good of the one here?

And I don't buy the "if I touch it for the one second it takes me to through it in, I'll become corrupted and powerful and terrible and mess up the world" excuse!

25,269 posted on 09/12/2002 1:38:58 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: HairOfTheDog; RosieCotton; ksen; Overtaxed
He decided to hold the council so that all could decide...

Sheesh! Middle-Earth is being attacked by the terrorists and Elrond wants to take it to the UN...

25,275 posted on 09/12/2002 1:43:54 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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