[RosieCotton]

OK, a series question, gang!

In the movie when Saruman is talking to Gandalf, trying to get him to join him...is he supposed to be using the power of his voice? I watched THAT part last night, too, and couldn't help wondering. He slows down and kinda stares Gandalf in the eye at one point, like he's trying to bring him under his spell.

[Corin Stormhands]

Isn't that the point of Gandalf's realization about Saruman? I seem to recall Gandalf reacting...

[ksen]

I think Saruman may be using his voice there. I mean even I figured out Saruman was a bad guy when he came walking down his steps in his filthy looking robes.

The power of Saruman's voice must not transmit through the digital encoding process.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

You could be right about Saruman using his Voice... I think I got that impression too on my last viewing of the movie.

By the way, about the Elves... I was reading the first Annals of Beleriand from the History of Middle-Earth last night... and I got to the part during the last great battle with Morgoth's forces, that the Elves lost. So, Turgon and and his Elves are retreating, leaving Men under Hurin and Huor to guard the rear. All of the Men get killed, including Huor (and him with a pregnant wife back home!) Hurin get taken captive, tortured, held prisoner for years, and his entire family cursed by Morgoth.

Turgon gets to go back and hide in Gondolin and enjoy himself.

Now, was that fair?