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Thank you guys for bearing with me while I come to terms with these views of mine... It is good to hash it out. There is a right answer in there somewhere.

The idea of public ownership of land is not new, and it isn't going away, that isn't gonna happen.... My goal I guess is to fight for continued access to land, and stop this foolish "no access" business...

But with that I will drop it in here for now.

Hullo! - I am back from my meeting in town, and stopped by the pub for a couple pints and some red meat with a buddy on the way back, so I am feeling content...

How are things here?