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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: ksen
They are going to liberate FR for God and no one will stand in their way.

And there's just enough sneak in me to say "I will."

I know it's an exercise in futility. I know I will never convince them to change. But I do think we have some affect in pointing out some of the absurdities.

Summer and fall will change my available posting time. So I'll be backing out of the arguments somewhat. I've only been there since February. They went on for two years on FR before I got there. And they'll be there after I leave.

Let's face it, the disciples walked with Jesus and argued about which one was the greatest. We humans can't understand the mind of God, but we want to think we can. And when we get it "figured out" we want to make everybody else agree with us.

The arguments are all over man's interpretation of who God is. And I think we all fall short of a real understanding.

7,481 posted on 06/05/2002 6:21:49 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
I know it's an exercise in futility. I know I will never convince them to change. But I do think we have some affect in pointing out some of the absurdities.

Oh, I wasn't trying to implicate you in any of that. I was just making a general observation.

Certainly if someone is promoting false doctrine then we need to be there to stand against it. After all God tells us to earnestly contend for the faith. He also tells us, through Paul, that if we do anything without love then it is worthless.

I like doctrinal battles as much as the next guy, if I didn't I wouldn't be a participant on The Neverending Story thread. However, we should be able to have these "fights" in a way that still shows the world that even though we have these disagreements we still have a love for one another, if not for the actual person then at least for the Christ that died for that person.

Please continue to fight the good fight. Because if you don't then the vacuum you leave behind will be filled, most likely, by a troll.

-Kevin

7,482 posted on 06/05/2002 6:35:32 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Corin Stormhands
The arguments are all over man's interpretation of who God is. And I think we all fall short of a real understanding.

I agree.

-Kevin

7,483 posted on 06/05/2002 6:36:21 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Corin Stormhands; ksen
I'm probably out of line even venturing into this discussion, since I've never been to those threads.

But don't you think that some of those folks who smugly think that God is on their side could be more helpful if they tried harder to be on God's side? I seem to have this idea that God doesn't endorse all that hateful sounding stuff.

7,484 posted on 06/05/2002 6:37:45 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: ksen
However, we should be able to have these "fights" in a way that still shows the world that even though we have these disagreements we still have a love for one another, if not for the actual person then at least for the Christ that died for that person.

I think we often lose sight of that. I need a constant reminder.

7,485 posted on 06/05/2002 6:42:39 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Sam Cree
But don't you think that some of those folks who smugly think that God is on their side could be more helpful if they tried harder to be on God's side? I seem to have this idea that God doesn't endorse all that hateful sounding stuff.

I think you are on to something. It's like that saying I've heard that says, paraphrasing, "God + 1 = a majority". I can't stand that sign because it should read "God = a majority".

Now I dare you to go tell them. ;^)

-Kevin

7,486 posted on 06/05/2002 6:44:59 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Sam Cree; ksen
But don't you think that some of those folks who smugly think that God is on their side could be more helpful if they tried harder to be on God's side?

In a lot of a cases that's my argument over there. I try to consistently argue that we're all interpreting what God says to us, but that we have some very basic points on which we are in agreement.

But there are those who will not even admit that. I argue a lot that the lurkers are seeing us and that we need to keep our words and our behavior in check. Because I truly believe that my actions and words have eternal consequences.

I don't always do a good job of living up to that. But I try.

7,487 posted on 06/05/2002 6:45:47 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: ksen; Sam Cree
Now I dare you to go tell them.

Don't listen to Kevin, Sam. He's just watching how close we are to the precious and he wants to get you out of his way...

7,488 posted on 06/05/2002 6:47:14 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Sam Cree
That's very eloquent

Thank you! But I think most of the credit has to go to the fact that I've read a lot of JRRT's works. :)

7,489 posted on 06/05/2002 6:52:12 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Overtaxed; Corin Stormhands; All
Good morning!

If I liked coffee, that looks like it would be a good cup.

7,490 posted on 06/05/2002 6:53:45 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
There are people who don't like coffee?
7,491 posted on 06/05/2002 6:54:56 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands;Sam Cree
Don't listen to Kevin, Sam. He's just watching how close we are to the precious and he wants to get you out of his way...

Spoilsport.

-Kevin

7,492 posted on 06/05/2002 6:55:01 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
Spoilsport.

Sneak.

7,493 posted on 06/05/2002 6:55:33 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Don't like coffee??!! How about tea?


7,494 posted on 06/05/2002 6:57:28 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands
sneak!
7,495 posted on 06/05/2002 6:58:19 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands
sneak!
7,496 posted on 06/05/2002 6:58:20 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands
Sneak.

-Kevin

7,497 posted on 06/05/2002 6:58:25 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Corin Stormhands
Mine!

-Kevin

7,498 posted on 06/05/2002 6:58:45 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Corin Stormhands
Mine!

-Kevin

7,499 posted on 06/05/2002 6:58:56 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
Hehehe
7,500 posted on 06/05/2002 6:59:00 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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