The New Hobbit Hole

[JenB]

Right, and we're pretty mild-mannered Hobbits. Mostly we don't care about Balrog wings and such, but if they made Elves purple, or Dwarves who sing hiho songs, then we'd have a problem.

[HairOfTheDog]

I think I am trusting enough in Jackson this time around that I am not going to tizz over changes that seem odd or wrong in the spy reports. Everyone was freaked over Arwen rumors, and it didn't turn out that bad (IMHO). Even if when he makes changes, I think he will still make good story.

[maquiladora]

Well, for those unfamiliar with the details, this could make a few Freeper Ringers angry, so if you don't want a major spoiler for Two Towers and Return of the King, then don't read what comes next! I'll put it in hidden text, highlight to view it :

Ready?....Saruman DIES in the Two Towers. Yes, thats right, at the end of the movie Christopher Lee aka Saruman of Many Colors meets his doom. During a scene where Saruman, Wormtongue and the Fellowship encouter Saruman in the newly flooded surroundings of his sprawling Isengard fortress ( as seen in FOTR ), Wormtongue pushes Saruman. He falls, straight onto a large spikey wheel ( seens briefly during a fly past in FOTR ). A link to the an image of this scene can be found here: www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/526 . As Saruman turns on the wheel, the Palantir drops from his hand and into the water...

And yes, you guessed it, The Scouring of the Shire is NOT going to be in Return of the King in any way, shape or form whatsoever. Peter Jackson said just that a few months back in New York during a press conference at a book store.

Spoiler over!

[maquiladora]

Even if when he makes changes, I think he will still make good story.

Agreed. Actually, some of the changes sound more exciting and better than what would be an original scene from the books.

[HairOfTheDog]

Ooh - that is a lot more details than I had heard! I had only seen the photo before.

Hmm... well, maybe the group can have a good discussion about some of that! What are our Hobbit Hole rules going to be on TTT spoilers, even in the rumor stages? More and more are going to be coming! - are we really going to be as good about it as maquiladora has just been?

I say report 'em if you got 'em!... but I am easy that way!

[HairOfTheDog]

Yeah - It sounds like it would work! I did notice that "item" in FoTR... and recognized it from the spy photo. The plot thickens!

[2Jedismom]

I say report 'em if you got 'em!

I agree!

I had not ever seen that picture before!!! Shucks, I hate it that the palantir falls in the water. That probably means no ride for Pip on Shadowfax. Darn, that's one of my favorite parts (being a Pippin fan).

[maquiladora]

I guess we'll be forced to activate the dreaded SPOILCON system, with SPOILCON-1 dealing with reports regarding movie-endings/character deaths right down to the lowly SPOILCON-5 where details regarding the color of Legolas' tunic and the length of Gimli's beard will be found. ;-)

[2Jedismom]

Going back out in the yard to watch Josh play and practice my whistle before Steve gets home...(it annoys him.)

[HairOfTheDog]

Here is an idea... Since I know we are never going to be unanimous on this spoiler thing. Why don't we start a LoTR: TTT spoiler thread. - That way, those unwilling to see it could just try to resist the temptation to click on it, and it wouldn't appear here. Want me to do it? - Or Would you like to post the tidbit and picture you just found as a starter? We may get more input from other sources in a new thread than in here, where just the uncurable dwell.

[maquiladora]

No, I think the water will be nothing too drastic, just one of the many puddles that will be scattered around Isengard after the Ents do their work of flooding the place.
Pippin will still pick it up I think.

[HairOfTheDog]

Well, from the sound of it... It might actually be annoying to hear until you are good at it... kind of like an oboe.

[JenB]

Cool idea - we could post the number of days every so often there too, keep it bumped.

[maquiladora]

Thats a great idea! Wonderful!
I think you should launch it, since it's you idea Hair. I can see it becoming a very popular thread come August, September, November...

[JenB]

And I get to post almost-daily countdown posts there! Also, I claim the Waterloo post right now.

[HairOfTheDog]

hehehehe - we will probably miss Waterloo again. We have also missed landmark years in the Shire reckoning. 1401 should have been a noted post number!

OK... I will post the thread as soon as I can get it up there!

[JenB]

What about 1420? Good wine year!

[JenB]

Where are the sneaks? Off for the weekend?

[JenB]

Should I do it?

[JenB]

Preciousss!