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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: RMDupree
Doot'de doo
45,601 posted on 12/05/2002 12:55:32 PM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
uh uh...
45,602 posted on 12/05/2002 12:55:32 PM PST by g'nad
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To: g'nad; Corin Stormhands; rightwingreligiousfanatic; RosieCotton
Hey! What race wouldn't find dwarves sexy? I mean, look at this...

If THAT doesn't make a lady's heart go pitter-patt, what would?

45,603 posted on 12/05/2002 12:55:37 PM PST by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree
Doot'de doo
45,604 posted on 12/05/2002 12:55:39 PM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: g'nad
Mine?
45,605 posted on 12/05/2002 12:55:43 PM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands; g'nad
Rats. But I'm glad you're back Stinky....

I'm almost caught up here...

45,606 posted on 12/05/2002 12:56:34 PM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: RMDupree
Punch buggy! - HA! Well, I never!


45,607 posted on 12/05/2002 12:56:44 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: g'nad
Bwahahahaaa. My first precious. It's going to hang out with the elves for a while!
45,608 posted on 12/05/2002 12:56:51 PM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: RMDupree
I'm with yuh... we got them rugged good looks...


45,609 posted on 12/05/2002 12:57:41 PM PST by g'nad
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To: Corin Stormhands
My wife had complications with her blood pressure during both pregnancies.

Pre-eclampsia? That's a bear! My sister had that with my nephew and it was extremely frightening. Even the bravest dwarf would be hard pressed not to fear pregnancy hypertension. *shudder*

45,610 posted on 12/05/2002 12:57:59 PM PST by RMDupree
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To: Lil'freeper; Corin Stormhands

45,611 posted on 12/05/2002 12:59:00 PM PST by g'nad
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To: Lil'freeper; g'nad; Corin Stormhands
It's going to hang out with the elves for a while!

Oooooooooh! That's GOTTA hurt!

45,612 posted on 12/05/2002 12:59:38 PM PST by RMDupree
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To: g'nad
Rugged all right. Was funny that the dwarf couldn't make the horse go forward eh?
45,613 posted on 12/05/2002 12:59:39 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
"a stick in the mud"

That does not describe you at all...I am horrified that I somehow implied it, since I enjoy your company, thoughts, posts and presence extremely much, more than just about anyone on FR...I am glad you are here in other words.

How can anyone named "HairOfTheDog," who loves to shoot, ride, hang out on FR, and who helped me with my potato guns be a stick in the mud?

Again, I am mortified to have somehow made you think it. This seems to be my week for giving all the wrong impressions.

I have been kind of troublemaking today, but just for fun.

Please accept my apologies :-)

45,614 posted on 12/05/2002 12:59:52 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Corin Stormhands
Good to see you too bro... I wiz missin' my homely brother...
45,615 posted on 12/05/2002 1:00:39 PM PST by g'nad
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To: ksen
You're all going to Hell....

Nice to Phari see you again Kevin...

45,616 posted on 12/05/2002 1:02:59 PM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog
Was funny that the dwarf couldn't make the horse go forward eh?

I haven't seen the new footage... but if I wuz havin' that particular trouble, we'd have plenty of fresh meat available...

45,617 posted on 12/05/2002 1:04:13 PM PST by g'nad
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To: Sam Cree
I am verklempt!

Maybe stick in the mud was not the right term. Wet blanket perhaps?

45,618 posted on 12/05/2002 1:04:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Wet blanket perhaps?

damp hanky?...

45,619 posted on 12/05/2002 1:05:23 PM PST by g'nad
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To: g'nad
There were wargs coming. Fresh meat was not gonna be a problem, only thing to be decided is who the meat was gonna be!
45,620 posted on 12/05/2002 1:05:36 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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