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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: Sam Cree
I didn't remember... Google is an amazing thing!... It won for music and effects, and was nominated for Picture.

Awards Star Wars Has Won

43,341 posted on 11/22/2002 10:21:10 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Who did get nominated last year? *scratches her head thoughtfully* Whoever they were, they weren't very memorable. The Ring overshadowed them all!
43,342 posted on 11/22/2002 10:22:53 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Sam Cree
Yes, the jedis love the movie. And uhmmm...the theater probably did sell coffee...but this was a special coffee...from Quik Trip. Very good stuff for a convenience store!

I ate a ton of their popcorn, though. Routinely made myself sick on the buttered stuff! LOL You know we probably saw AOTC a dozen times in the cheap cinema.
43,343 posted on 11/22/2002 10:25:35 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: Lil'freeper
For Picture and Actor, A Beautiful Mind won.
43,344 posted on 11/22/2002 10:25:53 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2Jedismom
"we probably saw AOTC a dozen times"

Don't know if I could have done that, even with buttered popcorn and my kids.

Used to like salty buttered popcorn as a kid, after freezing myself, riding the toboggan down hills in the snow, with my brothers.

43,345 posted on 11/22/2002 10:34:03 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Matthew went with me to see FOTR 9 of the 19 times I went. I wouldn't go see AOTC that often in the regular cinema and promised him when it came to the cheap cinema, I would take him whenever he wanted and we had time. We went a bunch! It cost a buck fifty for all three of us to go, Joshua would sit in his car booster seat and doze a lot of the time and I would spend a fortune on the popcorn because I have no self-control. LOL!
43,346 posted on 11/22/2002 10:39:26 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
"Joshua would sit in his car booster seat and doze a lot"

I think that's what I'd have been doing, after awhile.

43,347 posted on 11/22/2002 10:43:42 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: HairOfTheDog
Ok, good movie and delicious actor, but the other nominees are quite forgettable. The pickings for this year seem rather dismal (Eminem?), but then I haven't been to that many movies. Hopefully that means TTT will walk away with them all!
43,348 posted on 11/22/2002 10:45:38 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: HairOfTheDog; carton253
So Hair, I wonder where Smeags is, do you think she's mad at us?

She had a couple great posts on the Middle East yesterday, I saved 2 of them to word documents, since I didn't want to forget what she said.
43,349 posted on 11/22/2002 10:46:01 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Smeagol isn't mad... I've been over in the Middle East threads debating on the whether Israel's acceptance of a Palestinian state would be the same as committing political suicide.

Been defending Benjamin Netanyahu... etc.

43,350 posted on 11/22/2002 10:50:53 AM PST by carton253
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To: Lil'freeper
I haven't given any thought to who else is in the running this year yet! - I haven't really paid attention, and I probably won't be seeing any of the competition! I only saw ABM on DVD later... out of curiosity. It was a good movie, but no where near the directing challenge that FoTR was. There is an unspoken tie between Best Film and Best Director, and there shouldn't be. The best Story of the year, may not have been the best Directing achievement, but those prizes are seldom split. Maybe PJ will change that, I think he deserves a Director win, even if the films can't or don't win. I can't think of a harder film to direct than these.
43,351 posted on 11/22/2002 10:58:27 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: carton253
Hi Smeags, glad to see you.

I particularly liked your post #898 yesterday and want to talk about it a little when I get back, but I have to run now. I also admire Netanyahu.

See everyone soon.
43,352 posted on 11/22/2002 11:02:16 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree; carton253
I guess Smeagol found bigger fish in the Middle East!


43,353 posted on 11/22/2002 11:03:30 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
The only fella I can think of would be Dafoe's Green Goblin, but that would be for supporting actor. Not that playing a madman is all that difficult. They'll probably haul some foreign film in to sweep the Oscars... LOTR is foreign, right? *keeps her fingers crossed*
43,354 posted on 11/22/2002 11:12:37 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: HairOfTheDog
I am with your wife... I love the shade of the trees...

I like the shade too. But I am mainly concerned about 1) branches falling from the trees. We've had several fall over the dry summer and 2) the fact that I have no grass in the back and my land is washing into the neighbor's back yard.

The new neighbors are okay with it and are actually doing things to prevent the runoff into their yard. I'm trying to help too by planting a buffer.

But our previous neighbors were a different story. When hurricane Fran came through in 1996, she called and told us she feared our oak that was leaning into her yard. We eventually spent $3,000 to have trees removed that could potentially fall on her house.

When hurricane Floyd came through in 1999 (or 98?) she called and complained about the water running into her yard. Of course those six trees used to block that and in the middle of Floyd (after Dennis had parked off of the coast for two weeks), water was everywhere...

Mainly, I want a back yard I can fence in for the boys and the dog with some grass they can play in. Now that the inside is basically done (we still have some work) and the outside is done with the siding, I can work on the actual yard. I've been planting things for spring, and need to sow some grass.

43,355 posted on 11/22/2002 11:22:03 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
I like my wooded lot. It saves a ton on airconditioning bills. After Fran came through I got some grasslike weeds growing and...well...it's green and if I keep it mowed it looks pretty good.
43,356 posted on 11/22/2002 11:26:28 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: John Farson; ksen; Sam Cree
Aside from the opening night enthusiasm, the crowds can really be distracting.

My son and I went to the 9:30 p.m. showing of Harry Potter on Sunday night. It was definitely the geek viewing.

One guy took a cell phone call right in the middle. At least he had the courtesy to walk out. I never want to be that important...not that he was, mind you...

43,357 posted on 11/22/2002 11:27:20 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Overtaxed
...I got some grasslike weeds growing and...well...it's green and if I keep it mowed it looks pretty good.

Yeah... that is how I have been looking at it. My horses actually do most of the mowing when I turn them out in the yard for a day, and I just have to even it out once in a while and trim the edges! They are pickier eaters than one would think. They can eat the grass right around a dandelion and leave it standing there. Dang.

43,358 posted on 11/22/2002 11:30:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
... and I would either silence them with a PFFFFT!

But that's a great line in You've Got Mail when Meg Ryan and Greg Kinear are in the theater talking at the woman behind them shushes him.

He says, "What? The hotdog is singing. You need silence while the hotdog is singing?"

43,359 posted on 11/22/2002 11:31:38 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog; RMDupree; g'nad; ksen; rightwingreligiousfanatic
That argument worked. (sniff! maybe it worked too well! [looking around and not seeing a man around])

Men don't want the um...competition...

And that's all I'm gonna say about that...

43,360 posted on 11/22/2002 11:34:46 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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