Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
Timing is everything.......Hobbit Hole Etiquette: Lesson 1 - A "Precious" post shall consist of a post number ending in at least two(2) zeroes. ;^)
We need a FAQ!
For instance, are practice sneaks allowed?
Au revoir have a good rest and we'll hopefully see you tomorrow.
Lil'Freeper has been finding some great snippets about what Elrond may have been thinking about when he mentioned the dangers of studying the enemy. I think you would be a valuable contributor to that conversation.
I think so, but need to check with my lady (and myself, for that matter) that nothing else is happening.
"Of all enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debt and taxes. And armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended. Its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds are added to those of subduing the force of the people. The same malignant aspect may be traced in the inequality of fortunes and the opportunities of fraud growing out of a state of war ... and in the degeneracy of manners and morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
--James Madison (August 1793)"War ought to be no man's wish.
--Thomas Paine,
"The Forester's Letters." (April 24, 1776)"War is the health of the State. It automatically sets in motion throughout the society those irresistible forces for uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense.
--Randolph Bourne,
War is the Health of the State (1917)"Where is it written in the Constitution, in what section or clause is it contained, that you may take children from their parents and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battle in any war in which the folly or the wickedness of government may engage it?
--Daniel Webster,
speech before the House, 1/14/1814"All wars come to an end, at least temporarily. But the authority acquired by the state hangs on; political power never abdicates. Note how the 'emergency' taxes of World War II have hardened into permanent fiscal policy. While a few of the more irritating war agencies were dropped, others were enlarged, under various pretexts, and the sum total is more intervention and more interveners than we suffered before 1939.
--Frank Chodorov
"A Jeremiad", analysis (August, 1950)"When the war closed...we were challenged with a peace-time choice between the American system of rugged individualism and a European philosophy of diametrically opposed doctrines--doctrines of paternalism and state socialism.
--Herbert Hoover,
Speech in New York City (Oct. 22, 1928)
New Day (1928) p. 154"War has all the characteristics of socialism most conservatives hate: Centralized power, state planning, false rationalism, restricted liberties, foolish optimism about intended results, and blindness to unintended secondary results. ... War is just one more big government program.
--Joseph Sobran (1991)"America should have minded her own business and stayed out of the [first] World War. If you hadn't entered the war the Allies would have made peace with Germany in the Spring of 1917. Had we made peace then there would have been no collapse in Russia followed by Communism, and Germany would not have signed the Versailles Treaty, which has enthroned Nazism in Germany. If America had stayed out of the war, all these "isms" wouldn't today be sweeping the continent in Europe and breaking down parliamentary government, and if England had made peace early in 1917, it would have saved over one million British, French, American, and other lives.
--Winston Churchill
speaking with an American reporter (1937) Oxford DOQ"The wisest and best of our people
Despaired as deeply, found hope no easier,
Knew nothing, no way to end this inequal
War of men and devils, warriors
And monsterous fiends.
--Beowulf, c. 900 AD."War - hard apprenticeship of freedom.
--Edward Everett,
eulogy of George Washington. (February 22, 1856)"There are two things which a democratic people will always find very difficult - to begin a war and to end it.
--Alexis de Tocqueville,
Democracy in America (1835)"We would not seek a battle, as we are;
Nor, as we are, we say we will not shun it.
--William Shakespeare,
Henry V Act III, sc vi"Here dead we lie because we did not choose
To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is, and we were young.
--A. E. Housman"My kind of loyalty was to one's country, not to it's institutions or to its office holders. The country is the real thing, the substantial thing, the eternal thing; it is the thing to watch over, and care for, and be loyal to.
--Mark Twain,
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court"A man who says that no patriot should attack the war until it is over is not worth answering intelligently; he is saying that no good son should warn his mother off a cliff until she has fallen over it.
--G. K. Chesterton,
The Defendant (1901)
:-) Yeah, during dinner the other night, at a restaurant, after some "refreshment," I quoted the last sentence, the famous one, with a fair amount of force.
Everyone seemed pleased, though.
Under normal circumstances, I'm a fairly quiet person.
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