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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: All

Hey everyone! We have created an additional place
for us to hang out for "casual hobbit hole talk",
called the FR_Hobbit Hole at Yahoo!

It is a private place, for only Tolkien fans from Free Republic. This is just an additional place we have... We use the chat room sometimes for our idle chit-chat and to share live events like movie chat-views, and there are some cool files there that you can download, like e-versions of all the Tolkien books. If you do not already belong, contact any one of these good folk via freepmail:

2Jedismom
HairOfTheDog
Overtaxed
JenB
Ecurbh
Penny1

And we will send you the map of how to get there!

We are doing a chat-view of the Extended Edition FOTR tonight at 5:00 P - 7:00 C - 8:00 E time.... try to get in right away to join us!

41,381 posted on 11/13/2002 2:23:55 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; carton253; Overtaxed; Corin Stormhands; g'nad; 2Jedismom; ksen; NewCenturions; ...
Nothin new here... just watchin my DVD!!!! SEE YUH!!!
41,382 posted on 11/13/2002 2:27:47 PM PST by g'nad
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To: g'nad
Join us for the chat tonight!
41,383 posted on 11/13/2002 2:28:30 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
CAIN'T... CHOIR PRACTICE, AND REVILLE AT 0400... PROB'LY WON'T GIT TO WATCH THE WHOLE THIN' TILL FRI...

WATCHED MORIA, AND THEIR AT LOTHLORIEN... I'M GIDDY
41,384 posted on 11/13/2002 2:45:22 PM PST by g'nad
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To: g'nad
If you are jumping around like that.... the right after Lothlorien is a good new scene with Aragorn and Boromir...

And WATCH THE BEGINNING OF THE COUNCIL!
41,385 posted on 11/13/2002 2:50:29 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm watching Disk one of the Appendices.
41,386 posted on 11/13/2002 2:50:51 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
What's it like? - I haven't even looked at them yet!
41,387 posted on 11/13/2002 2:51:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I've gotten chillbumps more than once!

I gotta fix supper. I'll be back!
41,388 posted on 11/13/2002 2:57:26 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom; ecurbh; All
OK - This question is for the people who bought the collector's set.

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THE BOX IT CAME IN????

It is really a nice box.... heavy plastic in the windows, heavy cardboard construction, beautiful to look at. And I don't want to own it. But it is too nice to just throw away.

Should I make it into a terrarium? - buy a salamander to keep in it? - What?

41,389 posted on 11/13/2002 3:21:59 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Put it on eBay.
41,390 posted on 11/13/2002 3:24:13 PM PST by Rocko
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To: HairOfTheDog; All
Got my DVD yesterday, Absolutely overwhelming! Finally shut the thing down to go to work this morning (Sleep? Ha!) Why does it seem like Dec 18 is still months away?
41,391 posted on 11/13/2002 3:25:04 PM PST by Species8472
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To: 2Jedismom
It's funny, but too short.
41,392 posted on 11/13/2002 3:26:14 PM PST by Rocko
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To: HairOfTheDog
GIDDY DVD SNEAK!!!
41,393 posted on 11/13/2002 3:51:09 PM PST by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog
GIDDY DVD SNEAK!!!
41,394 posted on 11/13/2002 3:51:10 PM PST by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog
GIDDY DVD SNEAK!!!
41,395 posted on 11/13/2002 3:51:10 PM PST by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog
GIDDY DVD SNEAK!!!
41,396 posted on 11/13/2002 3:51:11 PM PST by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog
GIDDY DVD SNEAK!!!
41,397 posted on 11/13/2002 3:51:12 PM PST by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog
GIDDY DVD SNEAK!!!
41,398 posted on 11/13/2002 3:51:13 PM PST by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog
GIDDY DVD SNEAK!!!
41,399 posted on 11/13/2002 3:51:30 PM PST by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog
GIDDY DVD SNEAK!!!
41,400 posted on 11/13/2002 3:51:31 PM PST by g'nad
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