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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: RosieCotton
Had you going there for a minute, didn't I? :)
35,261 posted on 10/18/2002 5:36:00 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Brat. ;-)
35,262 posted on 10/18/2002 5:37:09 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: HairOfTheDog
I just don't fear them.

Read this book and you will.

None Dare Call It Education by John Stormer

35,263 posted on 10/18/2002 5:40:31 AM PDT by ksen
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To: JenB
...and C. accomplish such simple feats as placing Homer as BC rather than AD, that says something to me.

Now, now, we must start using the politically correct "B.C.E." and "C.E." Using "B.C." and "A.D." constitutes an establishment of religion, doncha' know. ;^)

35,264 posted on 10/18/2002 5:44:07 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
You haven't lived until you've tried to train college grads who can't do basic arithmetic.
35,265 posted on 10/18/2002 5:46:24 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands; rightwingreligiousfanatic
You could learn from my example.

He did, that's why we were treated to a 45+ post sneak yesterday. ;^)

35,266 posted on 10/18/2002 5:47:47 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Overtaxed
You haven't lived until you've tried to train college grads who can't do basic arithmetic.

Yeesh, I think I'd rather not live. ;^)

BTW, good morning to you.

35,267 posted on 10/18/2002 5:50:57 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen; rightwingreligiousfanatic
He did, that's why we were treated to a 45+ post sneak yesterday.

You taught me well Master Obi-ksen...

35,268 posted on 10/18/2002 5:55:00 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: ksen
Good Morning!

Is it 4:00 yet?

35,269 posted on 10/18/2002 5:55:04 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands
You taught me well Master Obi-ksen...

*sigh* You've gone to the dark-side my young Padawan. It's not too late to come back.

35,270 posted on 10/18/2002 5:57:05 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Overtaxed
Close enough...
35,271 posted on 10/18/2002 5:58:11 AM PDT by ksen
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To: RMDupree
Tennessee Lembas has a lot of molasses in it.
35,272 posted on 10/18/2002 6:00:00 AM PDT by DonnerT
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To: HairOfTheDog; SuziQ; ksen; Overtaxed; g'nad; RosieCotton
I won't bring this up on the homeschool thread, but I am in a contemplative mood this morning...

A seventh grade girl hung herself in the front school yard of one of our local middle schools (not Jrs) yesterday. This is the second suicide this year at that school...this school is in an uppper middle class area.

On the way in I heard Josh McDowell speaking on Focus on the Family. He was talking about "tolerance" and said that "tolerance and justice cannot co-exist because justice requires a clear understanding of right and wrong..."

So I wonder sometimes if maybe the cave troll wasn't right and I'm not really doing all I can to fight evil...but it's a little overwhelming. The world my boys will live in as adults will be radically different than my world.

I guess all I can do is train them the best I can and pray...lots.

Sigh...

35,273 posted on 10/18/2002 6:02:06 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
I guess all I can do is train them the best I can and pray...lots.

That IS all you can do, and fortunately that is also the BEST thing you can do.

I heard McDowell on Focus a few months ago and he was saying that 20 years ago the most quoted verse by Christians was "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Today the most quoted verse by "Christians" is "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Christians, especially the youth, are not being trained on how to discern right from wrong today. I think it is that inability to say, "Hey! That is wrong" that is killing us as a people and as a society.

Whoops! Where'd that soapbox come from?

35,274 posted on 10/18/2002 6:09:06 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
This was a re-broadcast of what you heard a few months back. (either that or he gives the same talk alot...)

35,275 posted on 10/18/2002 6:23:30 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: ksen; Corin Stormhands; All
Good morning!

IMHO, any Christian parent is going to find raising their children MUCH harder than the average parent. I know way too many moms that feel that as long as their kids don't kill anyone, they've (the parents) have done their job.

A lot of today's youth does not have a clear understanding of right and wrong, and I attribute the problem to parents who replace clear rules, discipline and education with the latest gadgets and gizmos, the "everyone-is-a-winner" self-esteem mantra, and "tolerance" for everything. My sister does the latter and I am seen as the bad aunt who scolded my nephew when he shoved my daughter to the floor for standing in front of the TV accidently when he was playing his Playstation. My nephew was stunned when I told him that only a weak man lays "bad" hands on a woman.

It's sad to see, but even worse for Christian parents whose values are so different from the mainstream that their kids are under pressure from most of their peers to not be so "weird". The Bible tells us that the last days will be tough for us and the Lord wasn't kidding.

End Soapbox.

35,276 posted on 10/18/2002 6:32:14 AM PDT by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree; ksen
I really try to hammer the right vs. wrong into my 13-year-old. He's 13, but still we see glimpses that he "gets it."

We're also fortunate that the youth group is a strong support for him. And, we figure it's just an answer to prayer the three other boys his age in our neighborhood come from strong Christian homes. One of the most amazing things to me is that his football coach is a Christian (and I think a lay minister). He begins every game and ends every pratice with prayer.

And, in spite all of the troubles, the Richmond area is still basically conservative and you're not considered abnormal if you go to church on Sunday.

But I can't rest on that...

35,277 posted on 10/18/2002 6:43:47 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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TT minus 2 months and counting....
35,278 posted on 10/18/2002 6:57:04 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed; ksen
You haven't lived until you've tried to train college grads who can't do basic arithmetic.

Or college grads (advanced degrees, even!) who can't put a decent sentence together. This is the one that gets me...I'm don't have the most perfect grammar in the universe, but I can generally get my point across. However, there are some highly educated people in this company (and other places I've worked) who can't write coherantly. At all.

35,279 posted on 10/18/2002 6:58:40 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
I'm don't have the most perfect grammar in the universe

I KNEW I was going to do something like that, just because of the subject matter. Darn!

35,280 posted on 10/18/2002 7:01:18 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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