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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: Overtaxed
like I'd like to see him enforce it...

It'd be impossible to enforce...it's just the idea the he has the audacity and socialist dogma and backing that he would even mandate such a thing...

34,661 posted on 10/16/2002 10:00:04 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: Overtaxed
"like I'd like to see him enforce it."

When it came to court, it would be interesting to hear what the violation was. Violating a direct order of the king?

34,662 posted on 10/16/2002 10:00:42 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree; Overtaxed; g'nad
Violating a direct order of the king?

That's pretty much how Spendenning would view it...

This is playing on the radio now. Virginia Lt. Governor Kaine is responding to questions about hunting bans in NoVA. until the sniper is caught. He said it's "highly unlikely..." But it doesn't bode well that it's even being discussed...

Take a deep breath g'nad...

34,663 posted on 10/16/2002 10:03:58 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: g'nad
WOOOHOOO!...G'NAD THREADKILLER STRIKES AGAIN...

Sorry...I was off getting lunch. Made it, packed it, and ran back to work. Not as good as RM's lunch, but it's OK...a round steak marinated with worcester (I can never spell that word!) sauce, onions and garlic (though I admit I didn't grill it...not enough time, so I cooked it in a - gasp! - skillet), and asparagus and onions sauteed in butter with a dash of white [cooking] wine. S'good.

34,664 posted on 10/16/2002 10:06:57 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Corin Stormhands; Sam Cree; g'nad
He said it's "highly unlikely..."

Just declare it open season on snipers. "Hunt him down like a duck." "That's 'dog', Buford."

34,665 posted on 10/16/2002 10:10:04 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
If a hobbit was born with hairless feet, or if an older hobbit begins to lose his foot-hair...would he use a toupee? Get plugs? A Foot-Merkin? LOL

toepee?

Do hobbit men with hairless feet have trouble finding girlfriends? Do they insist it makes them look more hobbitly?

34,666 posted on 10/16/2002 10:11:59 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Overtaxed; g'nad; Sam Cree; All
Just declare it open season on snipers.

Anybody getting details about the shot fired/heard near Catholic University in DC?

34,667 posted on 10/16/2002 10:11:59 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: g'nad
Hundreds of years, if I remember correctly
34,668 posted on 10/16/2002 10:14:39 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: Corin Stormhands
I didn't hear about that one.
34,669 posted on 10/16/2002 10:14:51 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands
Other thread says Fox is reporting it's not related to the sniper. Just another day/another gunshot in DC...move along folks, nothing to see here...
34,670 posted on 10/16/2002 10:14:59 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: RosieCotton
LMAO @ "toepee".

Does it make them insecure? Will they try a foot comb-over before finally admitting that their feet are bald?
34,671 posted on 10/16/2002 10:27:25 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Do they have a problem with hobbit pattern baldness?
34,672 posted on 10/16/2002 10:32:19 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Will they shampoo with Ro(han)gaine?
34,673 posted on 10/16/2002 10:36:10 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
A super-sized bird in Alaska


34,674 posted on 10/16/2002 10:37:37 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Groan...

Actually, I think that's for bald horses, not hobbits.

34,675 posted on 10/16/2002 10:41:29 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
For those who want long, silky foot hair...Mane and Feet?

(Instead of this stuff:

)

34,676 posted on 10/16/2002 10:46:36 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
LOL...I see a Photo Shopportunity coming up.
34,677 posted on 10/16/2002 10:52:39 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Yep! I think the picture would have to be changed too, though...maybe show Treebeard? Ent drafts are the secret...
34,678 posted on 10/16/2002 10:57:31 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
But early this week while flying into Manokotak, Bouker, owner of Bristol Bay Air Service, looked out his left window and 1,000 feet away, "there's this big ... . bird," he said.

GGAAHHH!!! It's got Elmo! Is there no end to the terror!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

34,679 posted on 10/16/2002 11:03:08 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
Is there no end to the terror!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Big Bird can't fly! And you call yourself a parent...

34,680 posted on 10/16/2002 11:06:09 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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