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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: Overtaxed; Wordsmith
Hmm, maybe we need to come up with a "Men are Weak" icon.... ;)
32,261 posted on 10/09/2002 7:28:46 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Having trouble logging into the chat room, so the heck with it!
32,262 posted on 10/09/2002 7:29:11 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Hmm, maybe we need to come up with a "Men are Weak" icon.... ;)

A little picture of Elrond's scowling face?

32,263 posted on 10/09/2002 7:30:22 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
A little picture of Elrond's scowling face?

That would work! Or maybe a smirking Boromir?

32,264 posted on 10/09/2002 7:32:52 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Wordsmith
I agree with most of that stuff, still adore the movie
32,265 posted on 10/09/2002 7:36:50 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Oooh, I like that. Not sure those who lust after the Lord Elessar would agree though! ;)
32,266 posted on 10/09/2002 7:56:23 PM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: Sam Cree
I think your guy is seeing the problems accurately, but they are much less extreme than he thinks. You have a choice whether to let them work you up or just enjoy the good you find, IMHO.
32,267 posted on 10/09/2002 8:06:00 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Wordsmith
hehehe, I'm going to get into trou-ble! ;)
32,268 posted on 10/09/2002 8:06:29 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Wordsmith
I meant to address #67 to you, sorry Wordsmith.
32,269 posted on 10/09/2002 8:11:24 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Wordsmith; Overtaxed; All
For the group's amusement... a proposed "Men are Weak" icon:


32,270 posted on 10/09/2002 8:36:39 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Overtaxed
ElfBash!

I don't consider it bashing. Elrond had every reason to be pissed, since the intervening 3000 years could have been a golden age for both humans and elves. He's seen more grief than any human could comprehend. He also has the best idea of the dire consequences of failure this time.

And I don't think Jackson is too off-base with his treatment of Aragorn. He's also telling a story for people who may have never heard of Tolkien, and don't know what to expect. Jackson has only about 12 hours (assuming extra materials in later DVDs) to tell the story, and there have to be some changes and alterations somewhere. Actually, I can't think of another book that has been made into a film so faithfully. It's not perfect, but who can claim to do better?

32,271 posted on 10/09/2002 8:37:59 PM PDT by 300winmag
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To: 300winmag; Wordsmith; Bear_in_RoseBear
I agree with you, winmag....

I have heard others say the same thing about Aragorn being too self-doubting, but I read a lot of doubt and uncertainty in Aragorn when I read the books.... it is a transformation indeed, from Ranger to King in six hours.....

I think Aragorn was very well done so far.... a competent enough leader, but untested, unsure...

And I see a change already in him in the trailer for TTT...

And I always liked Elrond... I found him to be wise and serious... it is a serious time. Not a jolly elf time.

Call me a PJ-Bot.... I love every judgment he made,
(except Galadriel the ghoul!) But one has to take a potty break at some point, doesn't one?
32,272 posted on 10/09/2002 8:51:21 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Love it Bear.... You may put me on the "Men are Weak" Ping list!
32,273 posted on 10/09/2002 8:52:57 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: 300winmag
Welcome to the Hobbit Hole!

I agree with you, so far Peter Jackson has done a wonderful job of adapting the book to the movie. But, I think even those of us who like the adaptation have favorite little things from the book that we think didn't get translated quite right... ;)
32,274 posted on 10/09/2002 8:53:42 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: HairOfTheDog
hehe, I liked Galadriel's little episode!
32,275 posted on 10/09/2002 9:11:21 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Galadriel's great!
32,276 posted on 10/09/2002 9:14:39 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: HairOfTheDog; 300winmag
Yeah, that's true, it's one of the most successful translations from book to movie ever. The guy needs to lighten up.
32,277 posted on 10/09/2002 9:16:51 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Overtaxed; Bear_in_RoseBear
Yeah, I thought Aragorn was too self-doubting....but I don't have a neat Aragorn bash icon ready!

Well, I like Bear's icon. But for Aragorn I was thinking something like:


32,278 posted on 10/10/2002 3:48:14 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog; All
Morning All. Sorry I missed the chat/view.

There's been another shooting. This time in Manassas (SW of DC). A man was shot at a gas station. They haven't confirmed the link yet.

When they catch this guy(s) I hope they have him drawn and quartered on Pay-Per-View...
32,279 posted on 10/10/2002 3:50:28 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
Corin Threadkiller...
32,280 posted on 10/10/2002 4:56:06 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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