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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
I have heard that too! - Down from the door where it began!
30,141 posted on 10/03/2002 6:42:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
hehe... you know, that's my second favorite poem in LotR!
30,142 posted on 10/03/2002 6:54:23 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; HairOfTheDog
I'm here, but I'm leaving to go watch ER then get to bed.

Bear, you're (one of) my resident technical resources. What's the best way to get rid of the "klez" worm from my email? Virusscan didn't do it.

See y'all tomorrow.

30,143 posted on 10/03/2002 6:56:29 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; Corin Stormhands
Ruh roh.... he's got klez.... hehehehe
30,144 posted on 10/03/2002 7:16:40 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
second favorite.... hmmmm..... ok... what is the first?
30,145 posted on 10/03/2002 7:17:22 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands
Ok, the goal is, write a 50,000 word novel in a month (Novemeber) It's at NaNoWriMo.org. It's free - well, they have a suggested donation. It looks like fun. Can we find a couple insane freepers who want to try?

From their FAQ - Aiming low is the best way to succeed. With entry-level novel writing, shooting for the moon is the surest way to get nowhere. With high expectations, everything you write will sound cheesy and awkward. Once you start evaluating your story in terms of word count, you take that pressure off yourself. And you'll start surprising yourself with a great bit of dialogue here and a ingenious plot twist there. Characters will start doing things you never expected, taking the story places you'd never imagined. There will be much execrable prose, yes. But amidst the crap, there will be beauty. A lot of it.

Did you know there is a group in Vancouver that writes novels in a weekend? Yes, and they are fools. Everyone knows that any deep and lasting work of art takes an entire month to make

Such insanity is to be encouraged - and rewarded. If I make it through next week, I can do anything! So can you!

30,146 posted on 10/03/2002 7:19:23 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands
Watching ER here too!

"klez" is evil. It requires a special program to cleanse it. Whatever you do, don't turn off your system until you cleanse it first!

First, go to the McAfee or Norton (whichever antivirus program you have) website and look for the special tool:

McAffee klez site

Norton klez site

If the virus has infected your hard disk, it's toast. You'll need to do a special command (called debug) to remake your drive... a reformat won't touch it. If it's that bad, then do the following: run the cleanse program, back up what data you can, and do the debug command to wipe your disk. If it's just in your email, your disk may be savable...

I'm looking for instructions on how to do the debug thing, but I wanted to get this posted quickly... I'll let you know what instructions I find!

30,147 posted on 10/03/2002 7:24:57 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Corin Stormhands; Bear_in_RoseBear; HairOfTheDog; JenB; 2Jedismom; Overtaxed; RMDupree; g'nad; ...
In my reading last night I came across this little gem from "Many Meetings":

Next to Frodo on his right sat a dwarf of important appearance, richly dressed. His beard, very long and forked, was white, nearly as white as the snow-white cloth of his garments. He wore a silver belt, and round his neck hung a chain of silver and diamonds. Frodo stopped eating to look at him.

'Welcome and well met!' said the dwarf, turning towards him. Then he actually rose from his seat and bowed. 'Gloin at your service,' he said, and bowed still lower.

I had forgotten that Gloin was at Rivendell. So which one do you think he is?

I bet he's the one in the middle.

Ok, here's one more from the same chapter:

'What!' cried Bilbo. 'You can't tell which parts were mine, and which were the Dunadan's?'

It is not easy for us to tell the difference between two mortals,' said the Elf.

'Nonsense Lindir,' snorted Bilbo. 'If you can't distinguish between a Man and a Hobbit, your judgement is poorer than I imagined. They're as different as peas and apples.'

'Maybe. To sheep other sheep no doubt appear different,' laughed Lindir. 'Or to shepherds. But mortals have not been our study. We have other business.'

Ggggrrrrrr! And you wonder why we think some Elves need a good bashing? To some of them we are no more chattel.

30,148 posted on 10/03/2002 7:28:37 PM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
The white-haired one who came in with Gimli!
30,149 posted on 10/03/2002 7:30:09 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands; Bear_in_RoseBear; HairOfTheDog; JenB; 2Jedismom; Overtaxed; RMDupree; g'nad; ...
Ggggrrrrrr! And you wonder why we think some Elves need a good bashing? To some of them we are no more chattel.

Whoops, make that: no more THAN chattel.

See how upset that made me?

30,150 posted on 10/03/2002 7:32:48 PM PDT by ksen
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To: HairOfTheDog
Ruh roh.... he's got klez.... hehehehe

Now, that's not nice! < shaking finger! >

second favorite.... hmmmm..... ok... what is the first?

The one Bilbo recites as the Company is preparing to leave, in "The Ring Goes South"... the one that starts I sit beside the fire and think....

30,151 posted on 10/03/2002 7:35:40 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: JenB
I bet you're right. Is he the same one I pointed out above?
30,152 posted on 10/03/2002 7:36:37 PM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
You're insane. It's a matter of perspective, sheep-boy!
30,153 posted on 10/03/2002 7:36:52 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
Did you know there is a group in Vancouver that writes novels in a weekend?

Yes, I knew that... a group of friends who were in a writing circle used to enter it every year. Produced some good stuff too! I don't think I'll ever be good (quick) enough to enter myself....

30,154 posted on 10/03/2002 7:40:07 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Well, then - sign up for the month-long thing now! I order you! ;-P

Actually it looks like fun and I'm getting psyched. It will make me feel ok about writing lousy stuff since it's word count, and that alone, that matters.

30,155 posted on 10/03/2002 7:43:20 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; Corin Stormhands
Hey - I have had klez arrive at my doorstep many times, but it never got in! - (PC-Cillin) I had no idea it was that bad... Most viruses don't do that much except propagate and move on....

Sorry for my insensitivity Corin! - I didn't know it was gonna take more than a shot in the arm to fix!
30,156 posted on 10/03/2002 7:48:03 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JenB

30,157 posted on 10/03/2002 7:50:31 PM PDT by ksen
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To: JenB
Maybe by next year I'll be ready! :)

One of the lessons I need to keep in mind is to write, and not edit; that is, keep going and not look back until finished. It strikes me that this sort of contest would encourage doing that!
30,158 posted on 10/03/2002 7:51:22 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: ksen
Hey! No hitting girls! Your mom would not be pleased with you!
30,159 posted on 10/03/2002 7:51:36 PM PDT by JenB
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To: ksen
I had to look up to see what Jen said to deserve that!









[snicker!]
30,160 posted on 10/03/2002 7:52:35 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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