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The New Hobbit Hole
Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
To: Inge_CAV
Ugh... I can't imagine it has a show origin, really, it does? - They look so ugly without tails! And they don't just cut the hair, they removed the bone too in the guy above!
To: Inge_CAV
Have a picture of your draft horses you can post?
To: HairOfTheDog
Don't have pics of them online that I can post, Arrrrgh!!!
They are Percherons too, like your pic above. Only
mine are more iron-gray and dappled. The mare that has your name on her is solid light gray though. : )
To: Inge_CAV
hehehe - Don't send her yet! - I don't have enough hay yet! (or a big enough barn!)
To: HairOfTheDog
You will need more pasture too. : )
To: Inge_CAV
Every single thing around here is too small!
To: HairOfTheDog
She is a Big girl! hehehe!
To: Inge_CAV
In the 1930s, a Belgian stallion by the name of Brooklyn Supreme became know as the world's largest horse at 19.2 hands and 3,200 pounds. He boasted a girth of 10 feet two inches around. It took 30 inches of iron for each one of his horseshoes.
To: HairOfTheDog
And they are as gentle as can be. : )
To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Thanks for the feedback on the Crusades, LCS. That's a good point about the continuation of Classical civilization.
On a side note, I believe the reason the "ethnic Albanians," who look like any Europeans, are Moslem is that their ancestors were forcibly converted centuries ago. Interesting what a backwater of Europe they represent.
I think it is only in the last 30 years that the Crusades have acquired their negative reputation, I assume as part of political correctness and its attack on Western Civilization (I notice that when Western Civilization is being attacked, they don't attack the main evil that it has produced, socialism. Big surprise, as the Left is the attacker).
When I learned about the Crusades as a kid, in the 50's, they were presented in a favorable light.
To: Inge_CAV
"And they are as gentle as can be."
That's fortunate, I think.
To: Inge_CAV
He is magnificent, but stallions only one-third his weight are enough of a challenge to be around!
To: Inge_CAV; All
I am going to bed now... I am a tired hobbit!
Here is a night-light for the night wanderers to see by!
To: HairOfTheDog
Good night Hair, All, me too.
To: HairOfTheDog; Sam Cree
I meant in general, like mares and geldings, not specific as in stallions.
None of them, of any horse breed, have much sense and are to be avoided. : )
To: HairOfTheDog; All
Turning in too, Good Night. : )
To: Sam Cree
I believe the reason the "ethnic Albanians," who look like any Europeans, are Moslem is that their ancestors were forcibly converted centuries ago.Actually it is a deal more complicated than that. The ancestors of the Albanians were known as the Illyrians, who entered history in the first chapters of 'The Peloppenisian War', later Illyria was one part of Caesar's consular province (the rest being Gauls). The Illyrians were a seperate branch of the Indo-Europeans, distinct from both the Italic and Greek peoples.
After the reign of the Emperor Justinian, Slavs, mostly Serbo-Croations took control of the Balkans north of Greece, the Illyrians were forced back into hill country, in the area now known as Kosovo. They were dominated by both the Empire to the south, and the slavs all around them. In the 14th century a heresy known as the bogomil heresy broke out it Bulgaria, and spread to the areas of Bosnia and Kosovo, where the Illyrians, now called Albanians adopted it. The Catholic West and Orthodox East cooperated in expunging this heresy, slaughtering innumerable Bulgars, Bosnians, and Albanians, and oppressed the survivors.
When the Ottoman Turks arrived in the 15th century, these peoples considered them almost as liberators, since the Ottoman oppression of Christians was not as severe as the oppression of the heretics. Over time, they gravitated to Islam, because of their bitterness towards both Catholics and Orthodox.
It is for this reason that Bosnia and Albania, and to a lesser extent, Bulgaria, became the strongest Islamic Balkan territories west of eastern Thrace (the lands around Byzantium). Something similar happenned in the Moslem conquest of Egypt, in which the local Christians were Monophysite heretics, who had been suppressed by the Empire. Despite its size and wealth, Egypt put up only token resistance to the Arabs. What remains of the old Monophysite Egyptians are known as the Copts (the Greek word for Egyptian), a small minority in their own ancient land.
This is an oversimplified summary of over 3000 years of very complex history, and I hope I have not gone on too much about this here. I guess I will take it to freepmail next time.
To: HairOfTheDog; Inge_CAV
Jeesh, where did everybody go? And what is that crack about how all horses are OK, except for guy horses. Sounds a little sexist to me!
To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
No, you can talk about anything you want here, big horses, Albanian history, even Tolkien books ;~D
It is sexist dear, they are different! I have owned a stallion, and a remarkably gentlemanly one at that that, but they are not for the half asleep! -Which I am right now! - I am going to bed! Good night!
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