Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.
In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:
Our discussion has been light:
It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog
However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB
Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr
Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog
Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB
Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed
To the very philosophical:
…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla
To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…
…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB
Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog
…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1
Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed
-----------------------------------------
Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom
…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253
Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed
So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.
I get shunned when I brought up stuff like this over on "those" threads. But, my family and I love holidays of all types. I'm the kind to put up the orange lights at Halloween (I have several strings of green "icicle" lights), etc.
We used to go to a much more uptight church. Our first year there they had a "Fall Harvest Party." I don't have a problem with that, but most of them just turn into Halloween Parties in drag.
But they advertised that children could come as their favorite Bible or Disney character. (it was a few years back).
My top costume suggestion list:
Rahab the Harlot
The Witch of Endor
The Mad Man of the Gadarenes
Cruella De Vil...
 |
 The Lake Chesdin water level is a prime example of why mandatory water restrictions go into effect today in Chesterfield County. (DON LONG) |
This is just south of where I live.
My thought is that's why we don't "open this up" to everyone. We have the regulars here and may lose some and gain quite a few more before then.
But I think we go to a more secure location. Maybe set up a Yahoo Entmoot group. And we'd only pass on the info via freepmail once we got to know someone. Then we can talk about details.
That's especially important if we end up at someone's house.
I don't even water my little mailbox planting anymore. So far, the oregano is hanging in there.
I dunno...
And for heaven's sake! Don't move while I'm gone!
My county officially starts water restrictions today. They made the decision about three weeks ago, but wanted to make sure everyone was notified by mail before they started imposing fines.
What I can't figure out is that the City of Richmond is waiting and two other surrounding counties are waiting to see what the City is going to do. What the heck are they waiting for?
It's not getting any better here anytime soon. They should've done this in June because they knew what was happening.
Some "conservatives" argue that the gubmint has no business restricting water. Well, if people would be responsible, I'd agree. But my neighbors on either side last night were doing the last minute drench of their lawns. There's just no excuse for that when wells are already drying up. 
Hehehe. A couple of weeks ago the city of Durham got caugth violating their own water restrictions. :)
I don't water lawns ever. Right now even the weeds are dried up. Oh well. At least I've cut down on verge trimming. I think I've cut grass a total of three times this season.
I'm taking all my notes for my books to the beach so I can review the plot lines. This morning in the shower, I figured out a major plot line/character connection.
I don't have many moments of inspiration like that, but this was one of those "ooo, that's good," moments.
I usually pour old coffee and tea in the compost pile. Other water-based drinks go to water house plants or the potted plants I have on the deck.
Earthworms like coffee and coffee grounds too.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.