The New Hobbit Hole

[carton253]

Okay... time to play a guessing game. What do you think Jackson's doing with Arwen?

[Overtaxed]

I was raised better than to speculate on such matters! :)

Plotwise I think Arwen has delusions of grandeur and won't stop until she's taken over everyone's roles. (does this count as elf-bashing?)

[carton253]

No, not at all. I'm trying to think whose part she is taking since she doesn't have one of her own. On some of the websites they have pictures of her coming to Helm's Deep. Why? Does she join up with Aragorn and go with him on the Paths of the Death, etc? As long as she doesn't take Merry's place in the slaying of the Witch-King... I guess I won't mind if she becomes the "4th" member of the Aragorn group.

And, I think in the preview when Galadriel is talking, she might be talking to Gandalf. Doesn't the Eagle King take Gandalf to Lothlorien after he escapes from the Balrog? So, maybe Galdriel is filling Gandalf in, bringing him up to speed.

[HairOfTheDog]

Yes it does count! - What a horrible thing to say about nice Evenstar!

I don't think she looks "dead" like all the reports said when it was first seen. Nor do I think she really looks injured. We even see her look up. I don't know what it is. A still of that scene came out a LONG time ago, and none of us could figure it out then either.

[Overtaxed]

Yes, Gwahir takes Gandalf to Lothlorien (I won't say anything about snoots :) ) after the Balrog encounter.

So far, Arwen has Glorfindel's part and stolen Frodo's thunder at the fords. I expect she has Halbarad's part and probably her brothers' as well. If she take's Merry's part as Nazgul-slayer all the elf-bashing promises are off!!!

[carton253]

I think we might be slightly jealous of the Evenstar :)!

Actually, I have seen Viggo in other things, and where as he is a fine actor, I don't think he's sexy or anything like that. So, it must be the stubble, the long hair, and the "outdoors wear and tear" that caught my eye. Even after seeing LOTR, I went back and watched him on t.v. in A Perfect Murder and GI Jane. No, does nothing for me.

As Aragorn, he's totally hot and sexy. Go figure that!

[Overtaxed]

Yes it does count! - What a horrible thing to say about nice Evenstar!

It was meant as "character-bashing" and not elf-bashing in general. :)

But as long as the promise is broken.....

[Overtaxed]

I think we might be slightly jealous of the Evenstar :)!

Only because her needlepoint is better than mine.

[carton253]

I'm jealous because she's thin!

[HairOfTheDog]

Why of all things is everyone thinking she takes Merry's place? - She layes down and takes a nap, looking quite serene and beautiful, and everyone freaks out!

If Merry is cut from the Nazgul slaying scene, I highly doubt that it would be Arwen there fighting with Eowyn! Nonsense! - Tomfoolery!

[carton253]

Didn't know that qualified as a freak out!

You're right, she is laying down and taking a nap... I guess I was responding to the rumors I have heard on other sites.

[Overtaxed]

Well she took Frodo's place at the Ford (not to mention Elrond's and Gandalf's) so why shouldn't she try for Merry's place? She's already encountered the Witch-King once.

I wouldn't mind seeing Eowyn kicking Arwen's backside in a fight, though.

[carton253]

I'd paid to see that...

[Overtaxed]

WWF event?

[carton253]

Nah... that's fake.

[HairOfTheDog]

Its a collective freak-out, those other sites included... not just you of course!

[Overtaxed]

How about PPV?

[carton253]

Okay... when I freak out, you will know it.

And it is rumors gone amuck. I guess when people saw her laying there, they thought she was in the house of healing. I think she's in a boat. Maybe... (and this is a huge maybe) it's a vision shown to Aragorn through the palantir... Oppose me, Sauron says, and I'll cause your Evenstar to fall into a deep sleep, guarded by the dwarves, and awakened by a Disney Prince.

That is one way you could work her in the story. She seems fierce, so if she goes to Helms Deep, I won't mind at all. As long as she doesn't turn into Xena.

[carton253]

I've paid enough watching these films. So, no PPV.

[2Jedismom]

Ok, now I really need to know...is that Eomer getting Theoden dressed for battle? It is fabulous, whoever it is! Like a ballet. I've been impressed with that part of the preview ever since I saw it. Oh, and is that Eomer standing with Theoden when Aragorn comes bursting through the door? He is standing by the throne, and backs up in surprise. It's obviously not Grima. . .could it be Hama? It just doesn't look like Eormer that's riding on the horse through the woods, but I don't know.