HEY!!
Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
HEY!!
Corin needs a nap...
Yeah, it was probably a bit much throwing executives in there.
Well, there we are! - Sorry I am not more flapped about it. Seems that even we have joked about pipe-weed, ent-draughts and pints here. I don't see harm in it, celebratory enjoyment of these things is part of our culture that we can see similarities in when we read it.
I see it as possible that some who affectionately see pipe-weed as marijuana (and we know it isn't) might be those who are young and might see that as attractive. They need our story, and I don't mind a bit what they see as a draw. They will be here for the other parts of the story too... The parts of the story that make us all want to be worthy of these characters.
As to the Tolkien not writing about anything as vulgar as drunkenness... I would say that we know darn well what is in those pints served up in the Prancing Pony and in the Green Dragon. Tolkien very much wants us to imagine the scene of a beer-fed rambunctiousness that does not happen when one is at a soda fountain. They are not ugly about it, but they drink. They get drunk. Unapologetically and freely IMHO.
While I sympathize and support not turning the story into an advertisement for drug and alcohol use, I don't see anything that implies Tolkien did not appreciate the effects of a good ale, or that he saw harm in it. You can love the story and not love drinking, but I would not try to say it isn't in the story.
I noticed that the elvish snootiness transferred quite nicely to the small screen. ;^)
Self inflicted wound brother...
It did make Elronds butt a little bigger...say...is that a silk undergarment he's wearing?...
Isn't that "The Gap?"
The kids went out yesterday to Best Buy, and without me even asking, picked up 2 copies of FOTR, one for them, one for me. So naturally we had to stay up 'til 02:00 last night watching the damn thing. But it was glorious. Now I guess I'll have to hook up the stereo speakers to the TV to improve the overall effect of the "experience."
Yup, I did the same, but I'm paying for it today...
.....never mind...
The hobbits, at least, enjoy drinking beer. I sort of enjoyed the one scene in the movie where the hobbits are staggering around in the street on their way home from an evening at the tavern.
But I agree, I don't like to see leftover "60's culture" references finding their way into anyone's interpretation of Tolkien. Jackson obviously understands Tolkien pretty well, though, even if he does look like a refugee from the 60's.
Yeah, me too, even the kids. At least I didn't have pints along with the hobbits, during the times they had them. It looked good, though, I'm temped to get out some of my old pewter mugs that I used to enjoy in the old days.
What an inspiring movie.
Sam! - I don't think you are helping to ease 2J and Alkhin's fears here!
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