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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: HairOfTheDog; carton253; JenB
How about Saturday? Maybe we can persuade carton to join us!

Jen, can you make Saturday night?
17,181 posted on 08/07/2002 7:34:23 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed; ksen
Now all I need is a new monitor.....

How about an Old Monitor? You're pretty close to it already...

17,182 posted on 08/07/2002 7:36:50 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: ksen
However....a 20" monitor would be great! But on the other hand I don't think my desk is big enough for two monitors and a cat.
17,183 posted on 08/07/2002 7:37:41 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands
Nahh...I don't want to deal with all that silt.
17,184 posted on 08/07/2002 7:39:01 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hi HOTD! I'm not much of a horse person, but my wife is. She's currently studying a training methodology called Parelli Natural Horsemanship. We've gone to see one of Pat Parelli's clinics. Fascinating stuff, and apparently a great way to work with difficult horses. Folks at our barn are pretty amazed at the way my wife can handle her horse without any bit or bridle, only a halter and lead rope.
17,185 posted on 08/07/2002 7:42:47 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: Alkhin
On a related note, in watching the video last night I caught for the first time Saruman's line to Gandalf in Isengard, right before the betrayal. Something like, "you've become overly fond of the halflings' leaf, it's clouded your judgement." Interesting add by PJ.
17,186 posted on 08/07/2002 7:45:08 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: Corin Stormhands
Thanks!!! I think so too, but I'm biased of course! ;-)
17,187 posted on 08/07/2002 7:46:41 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: Overtaxed
You could... but Carton doesn't have a computer at home. I think it would be great to sit around and chat about LOTR... but, alas, I won't be able to make it.
17,188 posted on 08/07/2002 7:48:06 AM PDT by carton253
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To: HairOfTheDog
Unfortunately, this weekend will not work for me. I have a family thing Friday night, and am working the night shift on Saturday.
17,189 posted on 08/07/2002 7:49:15 AM PDT by ecurbh
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To: carton253
Oh yeah......I forgot about that little detail. :)
17,190 posted on 08/07/2002 7:49:23 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Wordsmith; Alkhin; HairOfTheDog
. Something like, "you've become overly fond of the halflings' leaf, it's clouded your judgement." Interesting add by PJ.

I don't have my copy with me, but didn't he say that, or something similar in the book? Or have I morphed them together?

17,191 posted on 08/07/2002 7:49:42 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: ecurbh; HairOfTheDog
Unfortunately, this weekend will not work for me. I have a family thing Friday night, and am working the night shift on Saturday

The nerve of some people to actually have a life! :)

17,192 posted on 08/07/2002 7:50:50 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: 2Jedismom
They're beautiful! Hard to believe, but my oldest boy has actually OD'd on Star Wars for now. He's tired of all things Star Wars. Expect that will change later, like once AOTC is out on video.

Our family movie night went pretty well. The youngest fell asleep by Rivendell, the oldest was pretty enthralled, the middle boy (age 7) says he enjoyed it but definitely got the heebie jeebies. Oddly, it wasn't the Ringwraiths or even the gross orcs that pushed him over the edge. It was the skeletons when the Fellowship crossed the threshold of Moria, and the glimpse of Gollum. He was pretty nervous about whether there were going to be any more glimpses of Gollum, and I had to assure him that there weren't. The trapped tomb of Moria, the darkness (visually and thematically) of the film at this point definitely unsettled him. The release of the battle in the chamber of Balin's Tomb, and the Balrog, actually helped.

17,193 posted on 08/07/2002 7:51:52 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: Overtaxed
..."actually to have a life."

I split an infinitive before it's time. My bad.

17,194 posted on 08/07/2002 7:52:32 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: JenB
Hi! Somewhat disappointing, to be honest. I was surprised by how much of the impact of the film was lost on the small screen. The thundering hoofs of the Black Riders, the dizzying camera dive off the peak of Orthanc, so much was diminished. The characters are so much larger than life, can fill up a big screen so well, the change to small screen was more pronounced than with other movies.

The consolation is that the character development comes to the foreground more. Maybe because the drama was less dramatic, and I needed less emotional "recovery time," the slower character-based scenes seemed more drawn out.

Some relationships jumped out at me more. Legolas's depth of feeling for Aragorn (he defends him at the Council of Elrond) and Gandalf post-Khazad Dum were notable. The Aragorn/Boromir dynamic really came forward. 4 key scenes, with subtle use of facial expression and dialogue, really sum up the evolution:

Night in Rivendell, Boromir fingering Narsil. Eyed by Aragorn. Boromir thinking "who's this ruffian?"

The Council. "Gondor needs no king."

Can't remember where, maybe in Moria, Boromir says something to Aragorn like "the lords of Gondor [referring to he and Aragorn] will return." So he now thinks of Aragorn as an equal.

And of course the death scene. Aragorn has resisted the temptation that has bested Boromir. Boromir's final acceptance of Aragorn's superiority. "My captain, my king!" Great stuff.

17,195 posted on 08/07/2002 8:00:34 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: HairOfTheDog; Corin Stormhands; 2Jedismom; Overtaxed
IGOTIT IGOTIT IGOTIT!!!!!!

Well, I am playing my morning movie while I sip my coffee

Corin, Jr. and I started watching last night after we got home from National Night Out

I hate you guys....I'm tryin to hold out till November...and y'all ain't helpin...

Hullo all, sorry I haven't been around much...nose to the grindstone...got a break just in time to witness OT's spastic snatch of the 000precious...made my day.

So Corin, when can I come down to Richmond and watch TTT on your new 61" NEC PlasmaSync 61MP1 Gas Plasma TV?...it's only $19,995...I know yer good fer it...


17,196 posted on 08/07/2002 8:01:29 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: Corin Stormhands
I don't think it's in the book, unless it's in Gandalf's tale about his capture during the Council of Elrond. Be interesting if you find it.

I also have a new appreciation for the script writer. The Tolkien and non-Tolkien language blends seamlessly. Except maybe "she-elf..."

17,197 posted on 08/07/2002 8:05:22 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: g'nad
So Corin, when can I come down to Richmond and watch TTT on your new 61" NEC PlasmaSync 61MP1 Gas Plasma TV?...

Corin's got one of those? I vote for Richmond for Entmoot 2004!

17,198 posted on 08/07/2002 8:06:05 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: g'nad
So Corin, when can I come down to Richmond and watch TTT on your new 61" NEC PlasmaSync 61MP1 Gas Plasma TV?...it's only $19,995...I know yer good fer it...

You whine about not having FOTR on DVD and then want to wait to watch The Two Towers on DVD? You been runnin' already this mornin'?

But, if you can't stand Corin, Jrs' bedroom (not entirely unlike a trip through Moria), you're welcome to come watch it on a standard screen...

But for heaven's sake, if you're not going to buy it, at least go rent it...

17,199 posted on 08/07/2002 8:06:15 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
I don't have my copy with me, but didn't he say that, or something similar in the book?

I believe the only time in the books where we "see" Gandalf and Saruman face to face, is when they're on the road back to Shire...I don't recall that comment...could be wrong...

17,200 posted on 08/07/2002 8:07:24 AM PDT by g'nad
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