The New Hobbit Hole

[HairOfTheDog]

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole
Concerning Hobbits
The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.

[Overtaxed]

Rain has stopped in time for the commute home then it's....what do I fix for dinner?

OT-on the ...uh...Right Coast...sort of.

[Rebelbase]

I stop by and your serving ribs? Why was'nt I invited?

This is my marinade find of the year:

Make this marinade and put it on beef, chicken and pork:

2 teaspoons Seasoning to 1/4 cup olive oil and 2 tablespoons soy sauce. Add meat; marinate 45 minutes.

. Its killer good, honest....and you can shake the stuff on hamburgers before you grill them, outstanding!

[2Jedismom]

Nice pic of Gandalf, huh? Beard is definitly shorter!

[2Jedismom]

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?4050

Clearly everyone's very, very excited about both The Two Towers and The Return of the King, as executive producer Mark Ordesky tells Empire. 'The great thing is [The Lord of the Rings] was hailed as this visual epic, and films two and three are so much bigger. In film two, to make a Star Wars analogy, you have got a much more Empire Strikes Back structure, maeaning you've got Merry, Pippin and Treebeard in Fangorn, and Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas at Helm's Deep and Frodo and Sam going to Mordor – it's like an aperture that opens wider. I mean they literally get to the Black Gates – you get to see the Black Gates with these gigantic cave-trolls pushing them open.'

[Corin Stormhands]

Twelve minutes and counting......

Wish I could leave at 4:00. 4:10 p.m. on a Thursday and I get an idjit call that I could've lived without until next week (or later)...

[2Jedismom]

I took "Which Elf are you" test. This is what I came up with. HA! Who'd a thunk it?

I am Arwen Undomiel, daughter of Elrond and Celebrian of Rivendell. I gave up my immortality for love, but it was for the hottest Ranger-King of Middle Earth. In the movie, I'm played by Liv Tyler.

http://www.xirculo.com/quiz/elflotr/

[ksen]

I think I could inherit g'nad's title. I was over on that other forum today and effectively killed two threads.

Maybe God is trying to tell me something.

[Corin Stormhands]

[Corin Stormhands]

I was over on that other forum today and effectively killed two threads.

More likely, on that forum, God is using you to accomplish His purposes.

The sirens tried to lure me over there today. But I'm not going...

[ksen]

I am Legolas Greenleaf, Prince of Mirkwood, representative of the Elves in the Fellowship of the Ring. I contributed my archery skills, keen senses and prettiness to the Company, so don't you start. In the movie, I'm played by Orlando Bloom.
|| Which Lord of the Rings Elf are you? @ X.com ||

Well, whaddya know?

[ksen]

More likely, on that forum, God is using you to accomplish His purposes.

Heh heh, no doubt. ;^)

The sirens tried to lure me over there today. But I'm not going...

I saw that, I was very proud of you. BTW, nothing's changed over there.

[Corin Stormhands]

BTW, nothing's changed over there.

Yeah, I see the pings and the occasional freepmail. It's all the same argument. It's not something I need to spend my time with.

[g'nad]

I am Gil Galad, the Last King of Noldor. During the Second Age, my human pal Elendil and I formed the Last Alliance of Elves and Men against Sauron but we both died in battle. Bummer, I say, but at least I got my picture on a poster somewhere. In the movie, I'm played by Mark Ferguson.
|| Which Lord of the Rings Elf are you? @ X.com ||

But then, I never claimed to like elves...

[ksen]

Dang! That's who[Gil Galad] I was trying for! Maybe I shouldn't have checked off on that "namby-pamby momma's boy" box. ;^)

[DonnerT]

I am Elrond, Lord of Rivendell. I chose Elvenkind over Humanity and was gifted with great wisdom. During the War of the Ring, I called a Council of the free peoples of Middle Earth and founded the Fellowship of the Ring, all the time wearing a tiara. In the movie, I'm played by Hugo Weaving.
|| Which Lord of the Rings Elf are you? @ X.com ||

Dang! I hoped I'd be Haldir.

[DonnerT]

Dang! I hoped I'd be Haldir.

That is, only if I had to be a elf. Personally I'm glad they're leaving the world to us Humans.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

I am Celeborn, King of Lothlorien. During the War of the Ring, I succeeded in leading my forces in the conquest of Dol Guldur. People say I'm just Galadriel's pretty-trophy husband, but REALLY I'm the strong-and-silent type. In the movie, I'm played by Marton Csokas.
|| Which Lord of the Rings Elf are you? @ X.com ||

BWAHahahaha!

Sorry, I cracked myself up. Is the quiz still valid if you don't know the theme songs listed, and aren't familiar with any of the movies in the last question?

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Well, whaddya know?

Does that mean you're a self-bashing Elf?

[Corin Stormhands]

Is the quiz still valid if you don't know the theme songs listed, and aren't familiar with any of the movies in the last question?

Hey, I picked "Rocky" cause it's the only one I knew and I still came out as Legolas...

But it's not good for a dwarf to dwell on these things.

[Overtaxed]

I took "Which Elf are you" test

I am not an elf!

Not a fair test anyway. I've heard only one of the songs and seen only one of the movies