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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: HairOfTheDog
If she is making exceptions, can you explain why Tolkien is not on this list?

It's put a strain on the marriage, but she's not a big Tolkien fan...she hasn't even seen the movie once...

She will have him on the list for next year. And I'm daring her to include J.K. Rowling (just for grins).

12,361 posted on 07/06/2002 8:04:29 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog
James Herriot's from Yorkshire.
12,362 posted on 07/06/2002 8:05:35 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Corin Stormhands
Having Our Say: The Delany Sisters' First 100 Years by Sarah L. and A. Elizabeth Delany

Interesting that this makes the non-fiction list, but that nothing their nephew, Samuel R. Delany, wrote made the sf/fantasy list.

12,363 posted on 07/06/2002 8:12:00 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Corin Stormhands
It's put a strain on the marriage, but she's not a big Tolkien fan...she hasn't even seen the movie once...

Oh Corin, I had no idea. I am so sorry

12,364 posted on 07/06/2002 8:13:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands
hehehehe - I am just kidding you know.
12,365 posted on 07/06/2002 8:14:20 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Rocko
That makes sense... I am a big Herriot fan... Love the TV version too. - Had a whole mess of them in books on tape, which kept me entertained on my commute for quite a while.
12,366 posted on 07/06/2002 8:17:08 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I am just kidding you know.

I know. Actually she's very gracious about it. She's stayed home with the 2-year-old while the 13-year-old and I have seen the movie three times in the theater. She does that with most movies and is content to wait for the VHS/DVD release. (or at least says she is). We'll get the LOTR DVD right before we head to the beach in August. She'll have plenty of opportunities at that point!

12,367 posted on 07/06/2002 8:18:51 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
Wow I missed a doozy of a conversation last night. I have to put my two cents in. I have studied to be a public school teacher (finished with everthing but certification), but I don't want my kids (when I have them) to go to public school. I want to homeschool them (much to the chagrin of my father). The reason being, not so that I can shelter them from the world, but so that I can know what they are being taught, and not taught the junk that is slipped into the public school curriculum. I also want to allow my kids to have to hands on one-on-one attention, as well as the pace they need without having to contend with 15-20 other students. As a teacher, when you have that many kids in one classroom, some get left behind as well as some are bored out of their skulls. When I do teach my own children, I aim to give them a well rounded view of the world, not a narrow unrealistic one. there are books that I won't allow my children to read simply because they teach things contrary to what I believe, but I won't restric them to only "Christian" books. If I did that I wouldn't be able to let them even read LOTR, since it is fantacy not "Christian". Had to put my two cents in.
12,368 posted on 07/06/2002 8:30:45 AM PDT by htur_75
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To: Corin Stormhands
And I'm daring her to include J.K. Rowling (just for grins)

I will choose not to comment on that one. It would take up too much space. :)

12,369 posted on 07/06/2002 8:34:59 AM PDT by htur_75
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To: HairOfTheDog; All
A brief Good Morning and Good Day to everyone... I have a lot of errands to run today, so I probably won't be around much. But, I hope everyone enjoys their Saturday!
12,370 posted on 07/06/2002 8:56:55 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: htur_75
"without having to contend with 15-20 other students"

Both my kids went to public school for awhile, you'll be doing great if you find classes with only 15-20. But I agree with most of what you say.

Though anything can work with the right people. When I was 7 (in public school in a very rural area), my class was divided into 2 sections: 2nd grade and 3rd grade. "Miz Hamner" taught both grades in the same room, simultaneously. She did a great job, too. I developed a love for reading that I've never lost. Everyone got a good foundation to go on from while in her class, no one expected that anything was just being given them. If you came to school unwashed, Miss Hamner made you bathe in a washtub in the coatroom...

Anyway, it shows the dollars that the liberals always want are really not relevant to education. They might consider actually having standards.

Have to go, but will try to check in later.

12,371 posted on 07/06/2002 9:23:21 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: htur_75; Corin Stormhands
Oh I totally agree about making sure your child has a well rounded education...I feel the same way! And there are tons and tons of literature with much to contribute to the Christian, that isn't completely Christian in nature. (I wouldn't be on this thread if I felt otherwise, probably!)

I'm just saying that (speaking purely in a business-like manner) that a very rigid Christian parent has every right to be as rigid and sheltering as they want and when they are involved in a business transaction, they have the right to find out whether or not the school and it's curricula fit into their standards.

You may not approve, but in a business setting, I'm just saying your approval isn't required.

My friend that I have mentioned is very much like this...very sheltering, no science fiction, no television that isn't put out by Focus on the Family or something! I don't think she's doing the right thing, but it's a free country (for now) and she can do anything she wants. Her child is a dweeb. I think that Matthew's well-rounded life makes him fit in better. I do believe that had I sent him to school, he would have had real problems. Remember he's six years old and in the third grade. So I try to balance a normal six year old life for this advanced child. The result is an extremely cheerful, self-confident and articulate little boy.
12,372 posted on 07/06/2002 9:35:13 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: Corin Stormhands
PS: I LOVE Sue Grafton!!!!!
12,373 posted on 07/06/2002 9:37:04 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
I don't mind how your friend raises her child, just as long as she doesn't tell me I have to raise mine the same way. That's one thing I love about this country. We each can make our own decisions for our family. Growing up my mom would not let me watch or read anything that had to do with witches, witchcraft, and New Age concepts. For example, I was not allowed to watch "Escape from Witch Mountain", "I Dream of Jeanie", or "Bewitched" to name a few. To many of my friends (as well as myself at times) thought she was too rigid, but I think I came out ok in the end.

I have to say I am very glad to hear that you are trying to balance your son's life. I agree with you that he would have had problems if he had gone to a regular school. I'm not saying that the public schools are all bad, but for it would be hard on a child that advanced. Most teachers wouldn't know what to do with him, and he would be so far advanced compared to most children.

12,374 posted on 07/06/2002 10:24:29 AM PDT by htur_75
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To: 2Jedismom
where did you get all those neat smiley faces?
12,375 posted on 07/06/2002 10:34:40 AM PDT by htur_75
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To: 2Jedismom; All
Hello hobbitses! I'm out here hacking weeds and being grateful that I'll get something out of the garden this year. The deer are eating the beans. Have plenty of pints! :)
12,376 posted on 07/06/2002 10:39:30 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: 2Jedismom
Her child is a dweeb.

And I think that's the main problem. We spent 8 years at a wonderful inter-denominational church in DC that was geared to the urban young professional (which we were when we started there). There was a very strong emphasis on being Christ in the marketplace, something that is very much needed in DC.

That's where we're coming from. If our kids only get the stuff from Focus on the Family or if we're really uptight about "Growing Kids God's Way" (don't get me started on that one), then they won't be ready to face the real world. The real world is ugly, very ugly, and I think we do our kids a disservice if we limit their exposure until they hit college or later.

We do our best to expose our kids to lots of things, and in the process tell them why we believe what we believe. Don't get me wrong, we do limit some of the things they see or read. (profanity, graphic sex, excessive violence, etc.) 'cause they're just not ready to deal with that (if they ever will be - there are likewise things of that nature we choose not to see).

Ultimately, it is the parent's responsibility. Unfortunately, some parents are just ignorant.

12,377 posted on 07/06/2002 10:43:19 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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Sounds like you are wise parents... take a look at me, I was the result of the type of child-rearing you're talking about. So you still have time to change your minds! ;-)

I was involved in something like the homeschool academy you're talking about, on Mondays for about four years. Great time. I got to study Shakespeare, science, get snubbed by the popular girls, stand up for myself, fall in love... it was wonderful.

12,378 posted on 07/06/2002 10:54:02 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands
Ultimately, it is the parent's responsibility

Amen!

This same friend of mine that I've been talking about is at the church putting her kids into the church activities while she does everything she can to volunteer. Good for her, but her kids are actually spending more time under someone elses authority than under hers! And these teachers, I'm sure they are great people, but they are not the parents of these children and don't love them the way a parent should. They also don't have the authority to discipline the children and it shows. These kids are absolute terrors!

You know how when you are teaching your child how to ride a bike, you run along behind them holding on for a time till they figure out their balance and ride off on their own? I see discipline as being the same way. I'm not talking major stuff, like lying or cheating so much...I'm talking things like being courteous and behaving appropriately. I feel like I'm just running along behind my kids...holding on sometimes, letting them go sometimes, making sure they don't fall as best I can!

One of these days, they'll go off on their own and only time will tell if I did a good job.

12,379 posted on 07/06/2002 11:23:02 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: Corin Stormhands
"Growing Kids God's Way"

Oh my stars, don't get me started either! This is another one of those examples I gave earlier where parents have abdicated (or perhaps never had) control over their kids and have turned to a "program" to try to help them. Perhaps it's a life-saver for some people. I don't need a book to tell me how to raise my child. If I read the Word and carefully try to discern what the Holy Spirit is convicting me of, I feel like I can do anything, "through Christ who strengthens me."

It's like AA. Now I know this is a lifesaver for some people. Both my brother-in-laws nearly killed themselves drunk driving and now can't go a day without going to "a meeting". My husband drank a lot too. One day he quit. No meetings. No support group. My brother-in-laws actually resent him!

12,380 posted on 07/06/2002 11:36:02 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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