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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: Overtaxed
You've read it? And lived to tell the tale? Comparing Amber and WoT is just wrong. For one thing, even any bits of Amber that did repeat - and yes, there were repetitions, I mean how many characters "walked the pattern" - but anyway, they were still good stories. And well written and internally consistent. One way to tell if a series is good is to read every volumn straight through at once. I did that for both Amber and WoT. Amber stood the test; WoT failed miserably. I want my week back!

Morning all. Got to get my caffeine before heading off to work - and check what's happened overnight.

11,041 posted on 06/27/2002 6:08:07 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
Good morning!

I've never read Wheel of Time. I have so little time to read, I want to make sure everything I spend it on is high-quality. From what I've heard about WoT, it ain't.
11,042 posted on 06/27/2002 6:15:38 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: JenB
I read Amber. After a while I was wondering if there was any plot to it...you know....introduction, build to climax, resolution, end. I got lost looking for the climax. It seemed like one big soap opera with SF/fantasy elements thrown in. At the end, I just wished they'd all off each other and get it over with.

WoT rambles on with no end in site and is a lot more wordy. The last WoT book I read, I was hoping the bad guys would win.

11,043 posted on 06/27/2002 6:18:16 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: JenB; Bear_in_RoseBear
I like Corwin better

It's Corin, Jen, ;-)

11,044 posted on 06/27/2002 6:19:13 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Um, no, it's not. And that's putting it nicely. It is just bad...

Hiho, hiho, it's off to work I go. See you guys later!

11,045 posted on 06/27/2002 6:19:23 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB; Bear_in_RoseBear; Overtaxed; HairOfTheDog; ksen; 2Jedismom; g'nad
Morning all...(grumble, grumble, grumble)

Grumpy dwarf this morning. Just got word that our neighborhood pool concession stand was broken into last night. The nasty little beasts took all the candy and damaged the sink and the counter top. Don't know yet if they got any money (I think they usually take it out at night, or it's better hidden than the crooks know).

Make me angry. I have NO tolerance for vermin like this. Anybody want to come help me hunt some orcses?

11,046 posted on 06/27/2002 6:22:56 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: ksen
It's a pretty good place. A decent blend of contemporary and traditional. Sometimes they get a little too contemporary for me in the praise and worship part of the service (some worship chorus's could honestly be sung by a brain dead person...really!) But they always sway back toward the more traditional. The pastor is very strongly soaked in SB doctrine and isn't wishywashy.

A person can get lost in the church though...it's so huge. You have to find your nich. Ours is the homeschool group, of course. About 200 people, including the kids. You may recall I went to our banquet a while back?
11,047 posted on 06/27/2002 6:31:52 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: Corin Stormhands
Anybody want to come help me hunt some orcses?

I'm with ya!!!


11,048 posted on 06/27/2002 6:39:47 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad
Thanks g'nad. Knew I could count on ya.

Just found out. They didn't get the money (which I'm sure is what they were looking for). They got in by pushing the air conditioner in. It landed on the sink and counter. Amazingly, it's still working, but a little banged up. We didn't need this going into the 4th....grrrrr....

11,049 posted on 06/27/2002 6:44:11 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: 2Jedismom; HairOfTheDog
Sometimes they get a little too contemporary for me in the praise and worship part of the service (some worship chorus's could honestly be sung by a brain dead person...really!) But they always sway back toward the more traditional. The pastor is very strongly soaked in SB doctrine and isn't wishywashy.

Yeah, I like the more traditional services as well. Our church is pretty traditional, although our song leader likes to sneak in a chorus every now and then. I had one man in our congregation say that he had come from a church that sang a bunch of 7-11 songs. You sing 7 words and then repeat them 11 times. ;^)

A person can get lost in the church though...it's so huge. You have to find your nich. Ours is the homeschool group, of course. About 200 people, including the kids. You may recall I went to our banquet a while back?

Our church runs about 300 on a Sunday am, but only around 50 on a Wednesday night prayer meeting. My pastor is particularly burdened about that right now.

Does your church have its own school? I would like to see our church start a school for the church kids.

Update:

Gandalf came back from slumming with the Balrog. Gimli almost had Legolas convinced to turn Gandalf into a pincushion.

All is well now, Gandalf let them know that Merry & Pippen were alright and now they are headed to the Golden Hall.

11,050 posted on 06/27/2002 6:48:22 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
No school, we used to have a preschool but they stopped it while we're getting our new building built. They sold the old building to the Assembly of God and they are opening a school there.

I wouldn't use it anyway...institutional school before the age of 13 is an abomination!!!!

7-11 songs...LOL!
11,051 posted on 06/27/2002 6:51:50 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: Corin Stormhands; ksen; 2Jedismom; Overtaxed; g'nad
Good Morning! Sorry about the orcs Corin... So sad to have orcs in your stuff - the stealing is one thing but the pointless damage is sad to see.

I will help!

11,052 posted on 06/27/2002 7:07:46 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
I thought Gandalf wad dead.
11,053 posted on 06/27/2002 7:08:52 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands; g'nad
Baruk Khazâd! Khazâd aimênu!

Tell that to the stinking orcses

11,054 posted on 06/27/2002 7:31:42 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
I thought Gandalf wad dead.

Hhmm, so did Aragorn and the rest of the company. What they didn't realize though was that there was a large mattress at the bottom of the chasm he fell into. So instead of going "splat!" at the bottom he went "boing!"

Even though it was a nice comfy mattress, stuffed with feathers (don't tell Gwaihir), the landing still knocked the air out of Gandalf and the Balrog. Which was actually a stroke of luck because since they were so out of breath they couldn't get into the steel cage death match right away.

They had time to size each other up. It was at that moment that Gandalf recognized just who this Balrog was. It was his old Maiar friend Fargaband, which translated into the common speech is Bob. Before the fall of Melkor and the other Maiar, Bob and Gandalf had been best friends growing up, after all they had only lived a couple of houses apart. So after reminiscing and reliving some of their old memories for a few days they decided they didn't want to fight to the death anymore. So they decided to each go back to their own side and Bob would tell his bosses that he had been victorious and Gandalf would claim that he had beat Bob.

You won't find this part of the tale in the official canon, but it can be found in the Not Quite, But Almost Red Book of Westmarch, which has the real skinny on all the other "official" accounts of the happenings during the War of the Ring.

11,055 posted on 06/27/2002 8:00:19 AM PDT by ksen
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To: HairOfTheDog
Whoops, almost forgot.

Update:

Treebeard has, uh, redesigned Isengard and installed a lovely new lake.

Theoden is ready ride out of Helm's Deep to his sure death, but Gandalf has arrived and is talking him out of throwing his life away.

Legolas and Gimli are making a date for later, eeww!
11,056 posted on 06/27/2002 8:05:02 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
but it can be found in the Not Quite, But Almost Red Book of Westmarch,

Would that be The Pink Book of Westmarch?

11,057 posted on 06/27/2002 8:12:24 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: ksen
LOTS O' LAUGHS!



11,058 posted on 06/27/2002 8:23:46 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands; ksen; Overtaxed; HairOfTheDog; JenB; 2Jedismom; Penny1; Lucius Cornelius Sulla
An Elf, Human and Dwarf order a beer. When the beers arrive a fly lands ineach one.

The Elf shoves the beer away in distain.

The Human flicks the fly away and drinks his beer.

The Dwarf picks the fly up by the wings, holding it over his glass, and screams "Spit it all out you little b@$!@rd!!!"

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As my father always said:"Orc dat goes to bed with itchy butt, wakes up with smelly finger..."

11,059 posted on 06/27/2002 8:24:38 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: Overtaxed
Would that be The Pink Book of Westmarch?

I believe they originally wanted to call it The Fuchsia Book of Westmarch, but who REALLY knows what the color fuchsia is.

11,060 posted on 06/27/2002 8:24:48 AM PDT by ksen
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