The New Hobbit Hole

[HairOfTheDog]

Jen, are you off researching?

$50 Mallorn seeds says it is Orthanc and Barad Dur...

[HairOfTheDog]

$50 Mallorn seeds says it is Orthanc and Barad Dur...

Eek! make that 50 mallorn seeds, not $50!

[2Jedismom]

LOL! I wouldn't have really whacked her...but a girl can dream can't she? I'm just kidding you know it.

I'm pretty sure I got the PJ item off the old Hobbit Hole.

[HairOfTheDog]

Musta missed that one... (what else did I miss?)

[Corin Stormhands]

I am glad she didn't whack MIL too...

But wait, Whack-A-Mole is one of my favorite games! I just love pounding those little critters when the stick their grimy little heads out of their holes...

What?.....Oh wait....nevermind....

But I bet it would be just as much fun. What about Whack-a-Borogrove?

[ksen]

... good eye ksen!

Thanks! ;^)

(compare the spikes on top of this tower with the ones in the poster)

[HairOfTheDog]

Yeah... I am willing to switch which tower is which... I have been wrong on that! - Oh yeah.... I was gonna go look for pics when FR went haywire! - Oh well, I guess it is moot now...

[g'nad]

I thought it was Orthanc and Barad Dur.... and so does Jackson...

When I first saw TTT poster, I thought that the near tower looked more like Barad Dur...It's been a few months since I''ve seen FOTR, but I don't think the near tower resembles Orthanc (from the movie)at all. It's a dead ringer for the Orthanc painting ksen posted earlier

TTT title comes from events occuring at two separate towers... the siege and defeat of Saruman at Orthanc, and the Ringbearer's capture at Minas Morgul...at least that's what I've always thought...

Oh yeah...Borogrove...

[2Jedismom]

That's definitely Barad-Dur, since the Eye is there. But the tower in the foreground of the poster is definetely Orthanc. They are similar because Saruman was trying to do it up fine like Barad-Dur.

But Saruman had slowly shaped it to his shifting purposes, and made it better, as he thought, being deceived- for all those arts and subtle devices, for which he forsook his former wisdom, and which fondly he imagined were his own, came but from Mordor; so that what he made was naught, only a little copy, a child's model or a slave's flattery, of that vast fortress, armoury, prison, furnace of power, Barad-Dur, the Dark Tower. . ."

[HairOfTheDog]

It never occurred to me that the title might be talking about Morgul... Minus Morgul is just a watchtower though... hmmm...

I can't find the answer anywhere! - in Jackson's script in both the trailers, first Gandalf then Galadriel both clearly say Orthanc and Barad Dur.

My 50 mallorn seeds are still in play..., but the gambler is nervously fingering the cards...

[ksen]

It's been a few months since I''ve seen FOTR, but I don't think the near tower resembles Orthanc (from the movie)at all. It's a dead ringer for the Orthanc painting ksen posted earlier

I think you and Corin need to carpool the 160 miles to OT(?)'s dollar theatre to see the movie again. I believe Alan Lee, the guy who painted the pic I posted earlier was involved in making FoTR the movie.

Penny, could you post pics of Orthanc and Barad-Dur for us to compare? Thanks in advance.

Attack of the Killer Borogroves

[HairOfTheDog]

So they are supposed to look alike! - OK... It's gonna be confusing for the newbies, if we are this confused...

One of my friends confused Sauron and Saruman, because they sound so alike... Thought Gandalf had just told Frodo that this S person was evil, the maker of this evil ring, then he goes on a trip to just to talk to him! - Very confused!

[ksen]

Your mallorn seeds will be safe.

Are the Istari (wizards) the same as the Maiar? I haven't come across the answer yet in my reading.

One other note, I am listening to BBC's production of LoTR. Ian Holm plays Frodo in that, it's kind of wierd hearing "Bilbo's" voice for "Frodo."..............uh, oh Frodo was just singing and dancing in The Prancing Pony and disappeared! Wait, nevermind, there he is. He's explaining himself to Butterbur now.

[2Jedismom]

This is why I thought it was about Minas Morgul and Minas Tirith. It is the debate between Faramir and Frodo after Faramir found out which way Frodo was going.

Would you have me come to Gondor with this Thing, the Thing that drove your brother mad with desire? What spell would it work in Minas Tirith? Shall there be two cities of Minas Morgul, grinning at each other across a dead land filled with rottenness? ' `I would not have it so,' said Faramir.

[HairOfTheDog]

I am not penny, but here are the ones I found at Quintessential:

The base of it is quite different....

[HairOfTheDog]

Just to repost this so we don't have to keep hunting for it...

[Overtaxed]

Didn't Numenoreans build Orthanc in the first place?

[2Jedismom]

It says "men of old"...I always assumed Numenorean.

[ksen]

Thanks for the pics Hair!

The pic of the tower at Barad-Dur you posted isn't the main tower. It is more like the front gate to Barad-Dur. Next time you watch it you'll see that the camera pans from that front tower to the left and then it goes wwaayy up to the actual top of Barad-Dur.

Oohh, Frodo is hearing Gandalf read the "All that glitters is not gold" letter.

[HairOfTheDog]

It is an appropriate quote... and I would think so, except Orthanc is more prominant than Minus Tirith in TTT, and I would think the title refers to at least Orthanc as one of them. What do you think?