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To: for-q-clinton

The things they are in league with the Left on are less government issues and more personal issues, in my opinion.

Drug use is just one example. Sexual mores are another. On both of those, I agree, Libertarians deviate from alignment with Conservatism and align with Leftists.

But the one “unifying” characteristic if you ask nearly any Libertarian, the first thing out of their mouth is “Less or no government in my life”. That was why I put them to the end of no government, with some overlap with Conservatives who believe in smaller, non-bloated government that departs from the guidelines of the Constitution.

But you were right to point it out-you can see I had difficulty placing them.


7 posted on 09/26/2026 12:15:46 PM PDT by rlmorel (Gas prices are Temporary. Communism is Forever. Vote Republican.)
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To: rlmorel

Not anymore. I know a lot of libertarians are leaving the party/ideology.

So during the 80s and 90s they libertarians presented more of a right leaning party.

But now they are a definite left leaning party. The party heads appear to pander to the “minority party” of congress thinking that will get them more influence. But it keeps them a joke.

Abortion libertarians think is good (now). Used to be the individual was the child.

Drugs and sex are less of an issue now across all parties.


24 posted on 09/26/2026 2:21:51 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: rlmorel

Not so. There are Libertarians who want open borders and such, and while I favor the smallest, most local government possible, there are certain basic things that a government is supposed to do, one of which of which is protection from external hostilities. This means monitoring borders and maintaining either state militias to make up and army or operating a standing army. Also, see my tagline.

A government is also supposed to ensure that our constitution is followed so that the citizenry has the most freedom possible, but when was the last time the entire government was on board with that?

Until illegal immigration is stopped and voter rolls have been purged (along with the deep state), I can’t vote for a Libertatian. Right now it’s taking votes from someone who can solve the problem - or at least come close to it.

Recreational drugs - I think if you can grow it and don’t make chemical alterations outside of natural methods like burning, boiling in water, and air drying, it’s fine. I draw the line at chemical additives, which make the drugs way more potent. Booze is made with sugars, carbs, water and sometimes yeast being cooked together and later cooled, so the process is similar. Either ban all intoxicants or none of them.

I support monogamy. It’s good for families, the individual, and society. Promiscuity is a problem, straight or not. That is where social fabric really begins to tear. If you want a homosexual relationship, pick one partner at a time. Accept that you can’t have kids. Have a cat at home, FFS, pour your love into that and nieces and nephews. I’m sterile, so I’m fine being an aunt.

If you wanna be a slut, prepare for social consequences. People won’t want to marry you and have kids, they’ll want to find someone who can count the number of partners had on one hand, if at all. People of your sex will keep their spouses away from you and, likely, also avoid you.

If you wanna dress up as a woman even though you’re a dude, fine; but prepare to be socially ostracized. Try to walk into my bathroom, expect to leave a lot closer to being female. Do not push this sh¡t on children. If you do, again, prepare to be ostracized (or worse).

Just my two cents.


30 posted on 09/26/2026 5:39:07 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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